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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 10:50 pm
by VinylGuy
I don’t like Watt’s pop approach at all; but I warmed up with time ; specially with the Stones album; which is still in heavy rotation.

Seems PJ will deliver a very strong album with that sound, which will also be reminiscent of a few of their albums too.

Very fucking exited

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 10:59 pm
by liebzz
VinylGuy wrote:I don’t like Watt’s pop approach at all; but I warmed up with time ; specially with the Stones album; which is still in heavy rotation.

Seems PJ will deliver a very strong album with that sound, which will also be reminiscent of a few of their albums too.

Very fucking exited
I agree with this.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 11:01 pm
by Farmer John
I've pretty much come to terms with the production at this point. It's annoying, but good songs and performances will win out. Hopefully they go on Live From the Basement and play all these songs flawlessly and then all will be well in the world.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 11:17 pm
by Bi_3
Farmer John wrote:I've pretty much come to terms with the production at this point. It's annoying, but good songs and performances will win out. Hopefully they go on Live From the Basement and play all these songs flawlessly and then all will be well in the world.
this is a very good idea.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 11:17 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 11:23 pm
by Teeeeeekay
If this sounds like Earthling it's going to be rough. I give that album try after try and it is not a good album. On top of that, it sounds horrendous.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 11:23 pm
by RockPusher
We're Pearl Jam fans. What do you expect?

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 11:25 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 11:28 pm
by spike
tragabigzanda wrote:Yeah but so am i
Jamily stick together.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 11:34 pm
by DDWJMUVW
spike wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Yeah but so am i
Jamily stick together.

Just not Dave A

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 11:35 pm
by oasisfan35
tragabigzanda wrote:
Buby wrote:
spike wrote:
Strat wrote:There are things that are objectively true about this recording, the way its mastered, mixed. Trag is right on many accounts because he is actually very knowledgable about this stuff.

It is completely fucking subjective if you enjoy it.

both are fine.

People stop getting pissy about it. Both sides can discuss these things and please dont get offended.

K thanks bye.

The production sucks. Im pumped for the album!
But… trag is being pissy about it too. He admitted as much.
Regardless on what the the finished product ends up sounding like.
People in here have already made up their mind. They already hate it.
Seems like even more have already decided they’ll love it
Which seems to be what bothers you.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 11:35 pm
by Coach
Screw the production

More new Pearl Jam is here!

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 11:49 pm
by stip
coach gets it

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 11:49 pm
by headinspeakers
so much of the debate regarding production values and mixing, mastering, etc., to me, is subjective, difficult to describe and difficult to understand, when others are talking about it. inevitably, it comes down to "I like it, it makes me feel good" or, "it doesn't." does someone who is a knowledgeable about this stuff have an easy example to showcase "good" vs. "bad" production, or mixing, or mastering, like two alternate recordings of the same song, or something? I'd love to have a frame of reference. my sense is that despite my efforts to lean into this stuff, my ear may not be able to discern the differences between masterful recordings, and shitty ones. It's like analog and vinyl. I actively try to hear a difference but am obviously doing it wrong because generally, I don't. but I want to. need an adult.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed March 20, 2024 12:09 am
by Jaeti
Farmer John wrote:I've pretty much come to terms with the production at this point. It's annoying, but good songs and performances will win out. Hopefully they go on Live From the Basement and play all these songs flawlessly and then all will be well in the world.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed March 20, 2024 12:10 am
by Jaeti
Coach wrote:Screw the production

More new Pearl Jam is here!

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed March 20, 2024 12:13 am
by Jaeti
Seems like Ed is once again in a pretty good place in this new clip, both range-wise and mix-wise.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed March 20, 2024 12:14 am
by Aunt_Claire_Foy
headinspeakers wrote:so much of the debate regarding production values and mixing, mastering, etc., to me, is subjective, difficult to describe and difficult to understand, when others are talking about it. inevitably, it comes down to "I like it, it makes me feel good" or, "it doesn't." does someone who is a knowledgeable about this stuff have an easy example to showcase "good" vs. "bad" production, or mixing, or mastering, like two alternate recordings of the same song, or something? I'd love to have a frame of reference. my sense is that despite my efforts to lean into this stuff, my ear may not be able to discern the differences between masterful recordings, and shitty ones. It's like analog and vinyl. I actively try to hear a difference but am obviously doing it wrong because generally, I don't. but I want to. need an adult.
tragledouche wrote:Yianni "Live at the Acropolis" is, by all academic standards, the standard in multi-track digital production and represented a sea change in what was possible past 16 tracks.

Pink Floyd's "The Division Bell" was their fist mastered for digital (CD) album and highly regarded for its approach to space and crisp EQ.

AC/DC's "Back in Black" is a master class in leveling and compression.

Steely Dan's "Aja" is in the pantheon of best engineered/produced records and typically at the top of everyone's list.

In terms of BAD production...

Anything after 9/11.

- Trag
He has spoken.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed March 20, 2024 12:19 am
by McParadigm
Weird he forgot to include Dark Matter on that list, but it’s probably just because it’s brand new

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed March 20, 2024 12:27 am
by 96583UP
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