harmless wrote:It wasn't all about "giving a dying man his dream" though, was it? Because as well as "a dying man", this guy was a professional football player, and is interviewing Pearl Jam in that capacity. He's not just a fan, and he's not just "living his dream" by having the privilege. Did they focus on this man's achievements and status as a professional sportsman, or was it just a tear-jerker for ratings? This man has a degenerative condition which could very easily shorten his life, but hell, so do I. I would hope that any TV documentary will focus on my achievements in this life, and not manipulate viewers into prematurely mourning me, while I'm still alive and have plans for further achievements as a disabled person.
You don't want to watch this then, harmless.
I just don't think I'm in the best place for it, to tell you the truth. But ironically, it's because I care about how this Steve Gleason guy is portrayed. I want him to be given proper respect for all the right reasons.
Send him a sympathy card if you feel so bad. Something tells me that he and his family are completely comfortable with this, otherwise it wouldn't have been shot and he would have been given this opportunity. But who am I to judge, you are obviously his spokesperson.
harmless wrote:I would hope that any TV documentary will focus on my achievements in this life, and not manipulate viewers into prematurely mourning me, while I'm still alive and have plans for further achievements as a disabled person.
The problem here is that this was not a 'documentary' focusing on Steve's life. It was a small piece about him, his condition and his favorite band's role in him coping. That's it. If he had no problem with it, why would you? You are projecting in a huge way.
I uh... what? Projecting? What the fuck is wrong with you?
You keep bringing up your condition as if it relates to Steve. It doesn't. Stop.
harmless wrote:It wasn't all about "giving a dying man his dream" though, was it? Because as well as "a dying man", this guy was a professional football player, and is interviewing Pearl Jam in that capacity. He's not just a fan, and he's not just "living his dream" by having the privilege. Did they focus on this man's achievements and status as a professional sportsman, or was it just a tear-jerker for ratings? This man has a degenerative condition which could very easily shorten his life, but hell, so do I. I would hope that any TV documentary will focus on my achievements in this life, and not manipulate viewers into prematurely mourning me, while I'm still alive and have plans for further achievements as a disabled person.
It wasn't about Steve Gleason's achievements, though they did show his biggest moment in the NFL and his contributions towards healing a city after a natural disaster (but who's counting). It was about the fact that a young, healthy man is dying rapidly and this band has helped him cope and given him inspiration to leave a legacy for his child.
Regardless of your personal condition, this piece has absolutely nothing to do with you.
Stop being a contrarian grump.
Jesus Christ, man. Sorry for offending you with my opinion. But this... the bolded bit... is a very common disability narrative. It's great for ratings. If you care for how disabled people are often portrayed by the media, look up the term "inspiration porn".
He's more than disabled, he's dying. You don't know my life and it would be presumptious of you to think that somehow YOU have a better understanding of him than I would.
But hey, you're right, we're all idiots for finding this piece touching, and only you can see through the bullshit. Bravo, enjoy the misery.
I didn't say you weren't allowed to enjoy the piece. But I asked what the tone was like because I wasn't sure if I was going to enjoy it. Judging by the way you've reacted to my concerns, I think I'll leave this particular interview. But I'm really interested in this Gleason guy, he seems like a great, articulate guy.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
harmless wrote:It wasn't all about "giving a dying man his dream" though, was it? Because as well as "a dying man", this guy was a professional football player, and is interviewing Pearl Jam in that capacity. He's not just a fan, and he's not just "living his dream" by having the privilege. Did they focus on this man's achievements and status as a professional sportsman, or was it just a tear-jerker for ratings? This man has a degenerative condition which could very easily shorten his life, but hell, so do I. I would hope that any TV documentary will focus on my achievements in this life, and not manipulate viewers into prematurely mourning me, while I'm still alive and have plans for further achievements as a disabled person.
It wasn't about Steve Gleason's achievements, though they did show his biggest moment in the NFL and his contributions towards healing a city after a natural disaster (but who's counting). It was about the fact that a young, healthy man is dying rapidly and this band has helped him cope and given him inspiration to leave a legacy for his child.
Regardless of your personal condition, this piece has absolutely nothing to do with you.
Stop being a contrarian grump.
Jesus Christ, man. Sorry for offending you with my opinion. But this... the bolded bit... is a very common disability narrative. It's great for ratings. If you care for how disabled people are often portrayed by the media, look up the term "inspiration porn".
He's more than disabled, he's dying. You don't know my life and it would be presumptious of you to think that somehow YOU have a better understanding of him than I would.
But hey, you're right, we're all idiots for finding this piece touching, and only you can see through the bullshit. Bravo, enjoy the misery.
I didn't say you weren't allowed to enjoy the piece. But I asked what the tone was like because I wasn't sure if I was going to enjoy it. Judging by the way you've reacted to my concerns, I think I'll leave this particular interview. But I'm really interested in this Gleason guy, he seems like a great, articulate guy.
Based on your comments towards his interview, I doubt he'd say the same for you.
harmless wrote:It wasn't all about "giving a dying man his dream" though, was it? Because as well as "a dying man", this guy was a professional football player, and is interviewing Pearl Jam in that capacity. He's not just a fan, and he's not just "living his dream" by having the privilege. Did they focus on this man's achievements and status as a professional sportsman, or was it just a tear-jerker for ratings? This man has a degenerative condition which could very easily shorten his life, but hell, so do I. I would hope that any TV documentary will focus on my achievements in this life, and not manipulate viewers into prematurely mourning me, while I'm still alive and have plans for further achievements as a disabled person.
It wasn't about Steve Gleason's achievements, though they did show his biggest moment in the NFL and his contributions towards healing a city after a natural disaster (but who's counting). It was about the fact that a young, healthy man is dying rapidly and this band has helped him cope and given him inspiration to leave a legacy for his child.
Regardless of your personal condition, this piece has absolutely nothing to do with you.
Stop being a contrarian grump.
Jesus Christ, man. Sorry for offending you with my opinion. But this... the bolded bit... is a very common disability narrative. It's great for ratings. If you care for how disabled people are often portrayed by the media, look up the term "inspiration porn".
He's more than disabled, he's dying. You don't know my life and it would be presumptious of you to think that somehow YOU have a better understanding of him than I would.
But hey, you're right, we're all idiots for finding this piece touching, and only you can see through the bullshit. Bravo, enjoy the misery.
I didn't say you weren't allowed to enjoy the piece. But I asked what the tone was like because I wasn't sure if I was going to enjoy it. Judging by the way you've reacted to my concerns, I think I'll leave this particular interview. But I'm really interested in this Gleason guy, he seems like a great, articulate guy.
Based on your comments towards his interview, I doubt he'd say the same for you.
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
harmless wrote:It wasn't all about "giving a dying man his dream" though, was it? Because as well as "a dying man", this guy was a professional football player, and is interviewing Pearl Jam in that capacity. He's not just a fan, and he's not just "living his dream" by having the privilege. Did they focus on this man's achievements and status as a professional sportsman, or was it just a tear-jerker for ratings? This man has a degenerative condition which could very easily shorten his life, but hell, so do I. I would hope that any TV documentary will focus on my achievements in this life, and not manipulate viewers into prematurely mourning me, while I'm still alive and have plans for further achievements as a disabled person.
It wasn't about Steve Gleason's achievements, though they did show his biggest moment in the NFL and his contributions towards healing a city after a natural disaster (but who's counting). It was about the fact that a young, healthy man is dying rapidly and this band has helped him cope and given him inspiration to leave a legacy for his child.
Regardless of your personal condition, this piece has absolutely nothing to do with you.
Stop being a contrarian grump.
Jesus Christ, man. Sorry for offending you with my opinion. But this... the bolded bit... is a very common disability narrative. It's great for ratings. If you care for how disabled people are often portrayed by the media, look up the term "inspiration porn".
He's more than disabled, he's dying. You don't know my life and it would be presumptious of you to think that somehow YOU have a better understanding of him than I would.
But hey, you're right, we're all idiots for finding this piece touching, and only you can see through the bullshit. Bravo, enjoy the misery.
I didn't say you weren't allowed to enjoy the piece. But I asked what the tone was like because I wasn't sure if I was going to enjoy it. Judging by the way you've reacted to my concerns, I think I'll leave this particular interview. But I'm really interested in this Gleason guy, he seems like a great, articulate guy.
Based on your comments towards his interview, I doubt he'd say the same for you.
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Definitely got teary eyed during that
Is there supposed to be more to the interview when they show it on e60?
Yes, there will be a 10 minute introduction by Harmless on how the media is manipulating Steve and holding him hostage.
NEWS JUST IN: THE MEDIA TELLS YOU THE UNFILTERED TRUTH ABOUT EVERYTHING.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
harmless wrote:It wasn't all about "giving a dying man his dream" though, was it? Because as well as "a dying man", this guy was a professional football player, and is interviewing Pearl Jam in that capacity. He's not just a fan, and he's not just "living his dream" by having the privilege. Did they focus on this man's achievements and status as a professional sportsman, or was it just a tear-jerker for ratings? This man has a degenerative condition which could very easily shorten his life, but hell, so do I. I would hope that any TV documentary will focus on my achievements in this life, and not manipulate viewers into prematurely mourning me, while I'm still alive and have plans for further achievements as a disabled person.
It wasn't about Steve Gleason's achievements, though they did show his biggest moment in the NFL and his contributions towards healing a city after a natural disaster (but who's counting). It was about the fact that a young, healthy man is dying rapidly and this band has helped him cope and given him inspiration to leave a legacy for his child.
Regardless of your personal condition, this piece has absolutely nothing to do with you.
Stop being a contrarian grump.
Jesus Christ, man. Sorry for offending you with my opinion. But this... the bolded bit... is a very common disability narrative. It's great for ratings. If you care for how disabled people are often portrayed by the media, look up the term "inspiration porn".
If it helps, I was with you before when that tweet or whatever mention his and pearl jams 'unique' friendship, but I didnt get that feeling from this really, except maybe a tiny bit at the end when mike says he wished he could help him and some dude says but your music is or something. Otherwise he talked about the sirens lyrics meaning a lot to him, asked ed what he wishes his father would have left him/told him that kinda thing.
I did ignore all of the voice over automatically though, so I don't know about that.
harmless wrote:It wasn't all about "giving a dying man his dream" though, was it? Because as well as "a dying man", this guy was a professional football player, and is interviewing Pearl Jam in that capacity. He's not just a fan, and he's not just "living his dream" by having the privilege. Did they focus on this man's achievements and status as a professional sportsman, or was it just a tear-jerker for ratings? This man has a degenerative condition which could very easily shorten his life, but hell, so do I. I would hope that any TV documentary will focus on my achievements in this life, and not manipulate viewers into prematurely mourning me, while I'm still alive and have plans for further achievements as a disabled person.
You don't want to watch this then, harmless.
I just don't think I'm in the best place for it, to tell you the truth. But ironically, it's because I care about how this Steve Gleason guy is portrayed. I want him to be given proper respect for all the right reasons.
Send him a sympathy card if you feel so bad. Something tells me that he and his family are completely comfortable with this, otherwise it wouldn't have been shot and he would have been given this opportunity. But who am I to judge, you are obviously his spokesperson.
Well then you need to stop trusting that "something" that tells you stuff, because history and experience shows that this often isn't true.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
harmless wrote:It wasn't all about "giving a dying man his dream" though, was it? Because as well as "a dying man", this guy was a professional football player, and is interviewing Pearl Jam in that capacity. He's not just a fan, and he's not just "living his dream" by having the privilege. Did they focus on this man's achievements and status as a professional sportsman, or was it just a tear-jerker for ratings? This man has a degenerative condition which could very easily shorten his life, but hell, so do I. I would hope that any TV documentary will focus on my achievements in this life, and not manipulate viewers into prematurely mourning me, while I'm still alive and have plans for further achievements as a disabled person.
It wasn't about Steve Gleason's achievements, though they did show his biggest moment in the NFL and his contributions towards healing a city after a natural disaster (but who's counting). It was about the fact that a young, healthy man is dying rapidly and this band has helped him cope and given him inspiration to leave a legacy for his child.
Regardless of your personal condition, this piece has absolutely nothing to do with you.
Stop being a contrarian grump.
Jesus Christ, man. Sorry for offending you with my opinion. But this... the bolded bit... is a very common disability narrative. It's great for ratings. If you care for how disabled people are often portrayed by the media, look up the term "inspiration porn".
If it helps, I was with you before when that tweet or whatever mention his and pearl jams 'unique' friendship, but I didnt get that feeling from this really, except maybe a tiny bit at the end when mike says he wished he could help him and some dude says but your music is or something. Otherwise he talked about the sirens lyrics meaning a lot to him, asked ed what he wishes his father would have left him/told him that kinda thing.
I did ignore all of the voice over automatically though, so I don't know about that.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
harmless wrote:It wasn't all about "giving a dying man his dream" though, was it? Because as well as "a dying man", this guy was a professional football player, and is interviewing Pearl Jam in that capacity. He's not just a fan, and he's not just "living his dream" by having the privilege. Did they focus on this man's achievements and status as a professional sportsman, or was it just a tear-jerker for ratings? This man has a degenerative condition which could very easily shorten his life, but hell, so do I. I would hope that any TV documentary will focus on my achievements in this life, and not manipulate viewers into prematurely mourning me, while I'm still alive and have plans for further achievements as a disabled person.
You don't want to watch this then, harmless.
I just don't think I'm in the best place for it, to tell you the truth. But ironically, it's because I care about how this Steve Gleason guy is portrayed. I want him to be given proper respect for all the right reasons.
Send him a sympathy card if you feel so bad. Something tells me that he and his family are completely comfortable with this, otherwise it wouldn't have been shot and he would have been given this opportunity. But who am I to judge, you are obviously his spokesperson.
Well then you need to stop trusting that "something" that tells you stuff, because history and experience shows that this often isn't true.
It should be appreciated. It shows the importance and power of music in a person's life. It also shows two guys on opposite sides of the a similar theme (ed losing his father and Steve possibly being the father that will be lost) and them talking about it.
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Definitely got teary eyed during that
Is there supposed to be more to the interview when they show it on e60?
Yes, there will be a 10 minute introduction by Harmless on how the media is manipulating Steve and holding him hostage.
NEWS JUST IN: THE MEDIA TELLS YOU THE UNFILTERED TRUTH ABOUT EVERYTHING.
Yes, because this was about delivering the news to us. Wow are you a miserable person. Relax and don't get so offended by it.
You're right. I am only saying this because I'm a miserable fucker. I apologise and defer to your expertise and experience on this issue.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
