Red Mosquito

Aunt_Claire_Foy wrote:

headinspeakers wrote:so much of the debate regarding production values and mixing, mastering, etc., to me, is subjective, difficult to describe and difficult to understand, when others are talking about it. inevitably, it comes down to "I like it, it makes me feel good" or, "it doesn't." does someone who is a knowledgeable about this stuff have an easy example to showcase "good" vs. "bad" production, or mixing, or mastering, like two alternate recordings of the same song, or something? I'd love to have a frame of reference. my sense is that despite my efforts to lean into this stuff, my ear may not be able to discern the differences between masterful recordings, and shitty ones. It's like analog and vinyl. I actively try to hear a difference but am obviously doing it wrong because generally, I don't. but I want to. need an adult.

tragledouche wrote:Yianni "Live at the Acropolis" is, by all academic standards, the standard in multi-track digital production and represented a sea change in what was possible past 16 tracks.

Pink Floyd's "The Division Bell" was their fist mastered for digital (CD) album and highly regarded for its approach to space and crisp EQ.

AC/DC's "Back in Black" is a master class in leveling and compression.

Steely Dan's "Aja" is in the pantheon of best engineered/produced records and typically at the top of everyone's list.

In terms of BAD production...

Anything after 9/11.

- Trag

He has spoken.

Aunt_Claire_Foy wrote:

headinspeakers wrote:so much of the debate regarding production values and mixing, mastering, etc., to me, is subjective, difficult to describe and difficult to understand, when others are talking about it. inevitably, it comes down to "I like it, it makes me feel good" or, "it doesn't." does someone who is a knowledgeable about this stuff have an easy example to showcase "good" vs. "bad" production, or mixing, or mastering, like two alternate recordings of the same song, or something? I'd love to have a frame of reference. my sense is that despite my efforts to lean into this stuff, my ear may not be able to discern the differences between masterful recordings, and shitty ones. It's like analog and vinyl. I actively try to hear a difference but am obviously doing it wrong because generally, I don't. but I want to. need an adult.

tragledouche wrote:Yianni "Live at the Acropolis" is, by all academic standards, the standard in multi-track digital production and represented a sea change in what was possible past 16 tracks.

Pink Floyd's "The Division Bell" was their fist mastered for digital (CD) album and highly regarded for its approach to space and crisp EQ.

AC/DC's "Back in Black" is a master class in leveling and compression.

Steely Dan's "Aja" is in the pantheon of best engineered/produced records and typically at the top of everyone's list.

In terms of BAD production...

Anything after 9/11.

- Trag

He has spoken.

Strat wrote:lame as hell

Aunt_Claire_Foy wrote:

headinspeakers wrote:so much of the debate regarding production values and mixing, mastering, etc., to me, is subjective, difficult to describe and difficult to understand, when others are talking about it. inevitably, it comes down to "I like it, it makes me feel good" or, "it doesn't." does someone who is a knowledgeable about this stuff have an easy example to showcase "good" vs. "bad" production, or mixing, or mastering, like two alternate recordings of the same song, or something? I'd love to have a frame of reference. my sense is that despite my efforts to lean into this stuff, my ear may not be able to discern the differences between masterful recordings, and shitty ones. It's like analog and vinyl. I actively try to hear a difference but am obviously doing it wrong because generally, I don't. but I want to. need an adult.

tragledouche wrote:Yianni "Live at the Acropolis" is, by all academic standards, the standard in multi-track digital production and represented a sea change in what was possible past 16 tracks.

Pink Floyd's "The Division Bell" was their fist mastered for digital (CD) album and highly regarded for its approach to space and crisp EQ.

AC/DC's "Back in Black" is a master class in leveling and compression.

Steely Dan's "Aja" is in the pantheon of best engineered/produced records and typically at the top of everyone's list.

In terms of BAD production...

Anything after 9/11.

- Trag

He has spoken.

tragabigzanda wrote:

Strat wrote:You should hear him gush about Peter Gabriels recent record.

I just bought the Bright Side LP today!

chadisme417 wrote:I was 13 when I found this band. I'm 45 now. I've obviously changed a lot in that time. Same as a 60 year old man doesn't have much of his 20's left in him. At this point all I need from this band is presence. Whatever decisions they've made about their jobs over the years, or currently, the only one I care about is that they've decided to keep going. We're all so lucky to be able to debate why we love or hate their 12th record in 33 years.

Now y'all can go back to insulting the music, each other, the band - whatever makes you happy.

LetMeSleep wrote:Holy shit you guys need to find another record to get you through the next 4 weeks. 30 pages of absolute drivel in less than 24 hrs.