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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 2:09 am
by zeb
BurtReynolds wrote:
zeb wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:You need to learn about rhetoric.
My undergraduate degree is in political science and sociology, Burt. I have a reasonable grasp of rhetoric.

In this case, the journalist presented things that Trump has verifiably said or done and asked why voters would - on the basis of him having said and done those things - trust him to be their president.

So again, when you said:
BurtReynolds wrote:Agreeing to take questions is not agreeing to be a dartboard to a corporate propagandist.
...which part of the question from the journalist represented corporate propaganda?
lol that's embarassing for you then. Jesus, man! What are they teaching you down there?

Do you think propaganda is just when you tell lies?

Loaded questions? Leading questions? Half truths? Vague allusions? Tone? Any of this ringing a bell?
Attacking me when I asked a simple question only confirms my perception of you, Burt. :wave:

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 2:11 am
by BurtReynolds
zeb wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
zeb wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:You need to learn about rhetoric.
My undergraduate degree is in political science and sociology, Burt. I have a reasonable grasp of rhetoric.

In this case, the journalist presented things that Trump has verifiably said or done and asked why voters would - on the basis of him having said and done those things - trust him to be their president.

So again, when you said:
BurtReynolds wrote:Agreeing to take questions is not agreeing to be a dartboard to a corporate propagandist.
...which part of the question from the journalist represented corporate propaganda?
lol that's embarassing for you then. Jesus, man! What are they teaching you down there?

Do you think propaganda is just when you tell lies?

Loaded questions? Leading questions? Half truths? Vague allusions? Tone? Any of this ringing a bell?
Attacking me when I asked a simple question only confirms my perception of you, Burt. :wave:
You're already on your way to becoming a top tier journalist!

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 2:25 am
by wease
BurtReynolds wrote:Alas, I think this was his water bottle, but if it wasn't, this is what is called an alpha chad move, or brat as the kids say.
It wasn’t. The recorder panned over to Trump’s right to show his water bottle.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 2:27 am
by BurtReynolds
I wonder how that interview would have gone if it was Kamala, who has been criticized for doing a whole lot more (materially) racist shit than calling a black DA an animal or saying Obama was born in Africa.

Oh what am I saying, I'm sure it would have had the same energy.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 2:54 am
by E.H. Ruddock
As Matters once told me in here, we can only comment on what actually happened

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 3:09 am
by BurtReynolds
E.H. Ruddock wrote:As Matters once told me in here, we can only comment on what actually happened
Unban him

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 12:43 pm
by Peeps
BurtReynolds wrote:I wonder how that interview would have gone if it was Kamala, who has been criticized for doing a whole lot more (materially) racist shit than calling a black DA an animal or saying Obama was born in Africa.

Oh what am I saying, I'm sure it would have had the same energy.
how about insisting that the central park 5 were guilty even after another guy confessed to the crimes

how about not renting to african american people, being sued and then forced to rent to african americans?

is that racists enough?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 2:05 pm
by Bi_3
Caught up on Trump stuff. Dude has to see it's over.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 3:19 pm
by dad
oof.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 3:27 pm
by simple schoolboy
Peeps wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I wonder how that interview would have gone if it was Kamala, who has been criticized for doing a whole lot more (materially) racist shit than calling a black DA an animal or saying Obama was born in Africa.

Oh what am I saying, I'm sure it would have had the same energy.
how about insisting that the central park 5 were guilty even after another guy confessed to the crimes

how about not renting to african american people, being sued and then forced to rent to african americans?

is that racists enough?
The Central Park 5 definitely did some robbing and some beating that night. They got off because the prosecutions theory of the crime didn't include another person, not that they were uninvolved. Trump doesn't sweat the details, par for the course.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 3:31 pm
by wease
Now the apparent strategy is to double down and say Kamala isn’t black.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 3:39 pm
by Bi_3
wease wrote:Now the apparent strategy is to double down and say Kamala isn’t black.

Which is funny because it implies there is real value in the skin color of candidate and that a debate over that is more important than a policy debate. It's literally the red team's weakest area and exactly what the blue team wants, for Trump to walk into a situation where an 80 year old generational-wealth-rich white guy tries to discus the nuances of race in America.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 3:55 pm
by simple schoolboy
Bi_3 wrote:
wease wrote:Now the apparent strategy is to double down and say Kamala isn’t black.

Which is funny because it implies there is real value in the skin color of candidate and that a debate over that is more important than a policy debate. It's literally the red team's weakest area and exactly what the blue team wants, for Trump to walk into a situation where an 80 year old generational-wealth-rich white guy tries to discus the nuances of race in America.
Others are saying that, but did Trump? He "respects" her newfound black identity and original Indian identity (mocking her for changing her self ID based on political convenience).

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 3:57 pm
by simple schoolboy
Did the NABJ get enough credit for striking a blow against the white supremacist concept of "being on time" by starting 35 minutes late?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 4:02 pm
by McParadigm
simple schoolboy wrote:Did the NABJ get enough credit for striking a blow against the white supremacist concept of "being on time" by starting 35 minutes late?
Please spoiler a post as NSFW if you intend to show your whole ass in it.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 4:18 pm
by dad
oof again.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 4:21 pm
by Peeps
McParadigm wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:Did the NABJ get enough credit for striking a blow against the white supremacist concept of "being on time" by starting 35 minutes late?
Please spoiler a post as NSFW if you intend to show your whole ass in it.
sweet jesus...

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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 4:35 pm
by simple schoolboy
I hope you all are comfortable enough under a Harris administration to do the work and deconstruct whiteness. Clearly you aren't there yet.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 4:36 pm
by BurtReynolds
It's an old joke, but it checks out.
Spoiler: show
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Brings me back to the good old days of 2015 when woke was at it's apex, and then people were like, "wait, are you just peddling white supremacy?"

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu August 01, 2024 5:18 pm
by Peeps
please define woke