Red Mosquito

durdencommatyler wrote:I guess I'm still struggling to understand what you think Star Wars is and/or should be, McP.

JJ Abrams made a Star Trek movie that's TOO MUCH like Star Wars. Now JJ has made a Star Wars movie that's.... TOO MUCH like Star Wars?

Just hate it and move on, man. You've clearly already decided that it's a piece of shit.

I have next to zero interest in Star Wars anymore and I thought that was a fun trailer. Whatever.

Requested by absolutley no one, my shot by shot thoughts:

Opening voiceover: a bit over the top, but too early to judge since I have no character attatched to it

Black panicky storm trooper: that felt like the most fan made moment in the trailer--terrible opening choice. I do like that the old probe droid sound effects are in the back, but it also adds to the fan made feel. I'm gonna need more than a 3 second shot to think of storm troopers as characters

Volleyball droid: well, it's cute

Storm trooper drop zone: a bit video gamish. Didn't really feel like Star Wars. So far not working for me.

The chick on the speeder: okay, this was good. Don't know who she is but it felt authentic. The same frontier used car feel of episode 4, with enough of the same asthetic to call out the original trilogy without apeing it

X-wing squadron: the space battles were original trilogy highlights and terribly done I. The prequels. Glad to see the x-wings and digging the idea of atmospheric combat. Something I,d doing something new

Evil Jedi: the light saber hilt will need to be seen in action. I guess enough Jedi lost hands that this seems sensible, but it also echoes the 'new shit to do with light sabers' prequel issue. I will say that one shot has more atmosphere than all of the prequels combined

The falcon: okay, I pop every time this appears along with the theme, and the shot threading between the tie fighters is cool.

By the end Im excited. And, as others have said, it definitley has a more dusty and tactile feel compared to the prequels, which, while situated in the universe and populated with familiar characters, never felt like Star Wars. That's bracketing the terrible writing and acting. Even if that was nailed there was something too glossy about the prequels. It looks like Abrams may have nailed the experience. I trust him to also tell a fun story

Hilt! That's the word that's been escaping me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpfWrh1scZU#t=66

See, I really loved the opening of the teaser. The VO is really nice. The music cue actually made me jump a bit. I LOVED seeing a stormtrooper without his helmet and out of context. Great emotion. So many questions. Great visual. I'd be fine if it was the first shot of the whole damn movie.

The Falcon and the tie-fighters and all of that is fun, sure. But it didn't move me as much as the more mysterious new elements: the trooper, the VO, the new villain, the new saber, the unfamiliar settings. But I did get a kick out of the girl on that new speeder. That looked amazing. New but felt right, felt familiar in the right way.

Of course, the theme gets me every time. No matter how far apart Star Wars and I drift, that song is permanent thread. Always love hearing it.

Pretty excited, all told. I keep getting more and more excited, almost in spite of myself. Should be a damn fun movie.

Ubiquitous JJ Abrams sucks comment.

You guys, I don't think that's going to be an actual stormtrooper. I'm thinking it's some kind of New Hope-esque disguise situation. Aren't all real stormtroopers supposed to be Jango clones?

well said DCT


The stormtrooper in question is a real stormtrooper and questioning everything and his role in whatevers going on, according to leaks that appeared pre-teaser. He's a main character, so no doubt the stormtrooper role gets dumped early.

So am I wrong in thinking all stormtroopers are clones? Was it just like the first wave that were clones and then they started recruiting?

I'm starting to feel really nerdy and it's making me feel dirty.

That was the premise...no idea how theyre getting around it..

look closely at the trailer..each stormtrooper helmet while the same design, is actually built to scale for the wearer, so maybe there's a new trick..

the thinking is, there's a new republic and real people are taking back and inhabiting all the positions...yet the troopers in the trailer are about to lay waste to a village with flamethrowers, so who knows..

I'm not 100% up on what's cannon anymore, but I think it's fairly well know (?) or established that Storm-troopers stopped being clones after the Clone Wars.

Maybe someone else can confirm or correct me on that.

According to Wookiepedia:

By the time the Galactic Civil War began in earnest, Jango Fett's clones were heavily supplanted by clones based on a variety of templates around 9 BBY,[13] followed shortly after by enlisted Humans.[19] Thus, the Fett clones were ironically reduced to a minority status after years of virtually filling the stormtrooper ranks in its entirety. According to a stormtrooper's entry log in the 501st Journal, none of the Fett clones were ever truly able to come to terms with serving alongside recruits and different clones, all of whom were disdainfully dubbed as the "new guys."[13] Commander Cody, a first generation clone of Jango Fett and a veteran of the Clone Wars, found stormtrooper recruits to be absolutely intolerable. Due to the significant decrease in the Imperial Military's operational effectiveness and his own feelings of nostalgia over the Republic's "army of one man," Cody viewed enlisted troopers as incompetent idiots, all of whom he would have gladly sacrificed for just one real clone trooper.[19]

Despite the influx of new troopers from various sources, the ranks remained dominated by Human males, thus reflecting the New Order's Human High Culture. By 0 BBY, roughly one-third of the stormtroopers were clones based on the Fett template, while recruits steadily became the majority within the Stormtrooper Corps.[20] Service in the Stormtrooper Corps was open to both Human men and women, but female stormtroopers were an extremely rare sight under Palpatine's reign and on average there were never more than three female stormtroopers within a whole legion.[1].[21] In spite of this disparity, some female troopers served in elite units, such as the Coruscant Guard.[22]

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Stormtrooper

"For the record, that is Andy Serkis you hear in the trailer. I was able to verify this, although I was not able to uncover any further information about the role he plays. Here's what I do know, though. He's playing a pivotal role in the film, although he will not have a lot of screen time."

it's a trumor

That first shot of the helmetless trooper is genius. It's raising all manner of questions. They knew exactly why they were doing by opening with that clip. And that's the part that intrigues me the most. Fuck you JJ.

I liked the villain snippet the best. I don't care that he wielded a claymore
-esque saber. It was just a great shot.

Sgt. Crackpot wrote:That first shot of the helmetless trooper is genius. It's raising all manner of questions. They knew exactly why they were doing by opening with that clip. And that's the part that intrigues me the most. Fuck you JJ.

Yeah that was probably my favorite part of the trailer.

yeah
a guy with an almost lightsaber, responding to nothing shot was better than seeing the Millennium Falcon doing its thing along to the Star Wars fanfare..


fucking hipsters make me sick

dimejinky99 wrote:yeah
a guy with an almost lightsaber, responding to nothing shot was better than seeing the Millennium Falcon doing its thing along to the Star Wars fanfare..


fucking hipsters make me sick

Lol, what?

You scare me sometimes, Dime.

It's Star wars.. cant we just be excited about the fact that we still have it? someone still wants to make them and show them?

that's all