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Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 1:01 am
by Jorge
gardenparty wrote:Heh heh

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 3:33 pm
by dimejinky99
wilkins wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:BUMP
Can't you just call Glen and ask him...and by that I mean tell us what you already know...or hint at it, like you already do, oh wait... :lol:


There was a hint in that? You'd know more than I.

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 5:00 pm
by wilkins
dimejinky99 wrote:
wilkins wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:BUMP
Can't you just call Glen and ask him...and by that I mean tell us what you already know...or hint at it, like you already do, oh wait... :lol:


There was a hint in that? You'd know more than I.
I clicked the wrong quote button...
wilkins wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:This is getting close. Closer than it was anyways
Can't you just call Glen and ask him...and by that I mean tell us what you already know...or hint at it, like you already do, oh wait... :lol:
But dime, you must know something, don't you?

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 12:18 am
by Strat
Fun little Op-Ed piece by Paul Westerberg regarding song writing. He is probably my favorite. Thought it'd be a good place to put this as we discuss our favorite approaches by our beloved band pearl jam. Maybe Eddie isn't as good at "simple". Perhaps he is best when he is torturing himself to write a great song. Some genius' are struck by lightning...

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/20 ... mpossible/

My last contribution to The Times was on a dead man. I now try to write about a living art.

Painfully aware of the who-what-when-where hocus-pocus that constitutes the journalistic game, I beg the editors’ pardon because illiteracy is part of my stock-in-trade. I write songs where “orange” rhymes with “gorgeous” and “chin” with “gasoline.”

O.K., and now to explain how it’s done. Well, it’s a little like trying to hit a bottle cap with a wire coat hanger. Every day a songwriter rows out into the deep waters in search of his own personal Loch Ness monster. (Just a matter of time, we insist.) Being a weary subscriber to the old inspiration-perspiration theory, I must say that minus the former, you’ll hit a sweaty dead end every time, yet without this purging of what I call “brain vomit,” you’ll never drain the 99 pieces of hooey before one of pure inspiration writes itself for you.

Many a songwriter, when asked how it’s done, will underestimate the talent he was born with and blow his skill for brandishing it out of proportion. My talent (if that’s what we call it) is never, ever doubting goose bumps.

Neil Young insists that if the dog gets up and leaves, whatever you are writing stinks. There is truth here. Phony blues wailing or an ill-suited style attempt will send my own dog running. Yet when it’s so right it’s scary my four-legged audience is guaranteed (though I must say he’s yet to come up with a decent bridge). No, the goose bumps do not lie.

The pros in Nashville have an altogether different approach, similar to modern blues writers: it’s all in the title. “Blues Is My Business” (business is good), for instance, or “18 Wheels and a Sore Behind.” They may make good songs, but rarely do they make your skin crawl. Nobody gets married to a clever song, let alone falls in love to one.

Quick rules of thumb:

-Not from the hippocampus, not gonna fly on campus.
-Aim for the audience’s pockets and you’ll miss their hearts by a mile.
-Even Beethoven plagiarized Handel.

My own creed is “It’s simple or impossible.” To date I’ve written more than 1,000 impossibles. Note that I didn’t say “impossibilities” — incorrect grammar is highly useful. I would never have written a song called “Dis-satisfied.”


Allen Ginsberg said, “first thought, best thought.” This has helped innumerable times when my mind is spinning out of control with ideas.

So, fittingly, after I first sat down and unflinchingly dashed off several pages on the art of the song, on reading it back, panic set in. I had just stolen the entire whack from a book written by Jimmy Webb! Rushing to the bookcase to confirm my fears, I smiled as I realized the book had been digested, cursed and thrown out.

Egotistical thieves all of us. Or make that “thiefs.”

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:05 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
No news today, team.

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:18 pm
by EJ
What about speculation?

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:22 pm
by Jorge
EJ wrote:What about speculation?
I expect some "soaring anthems"

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:27 pm
by twoheadedboy
Possibly a song about water, or waves, possibly washing over rusted signs.

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:28 pm
by EJ
Over/under on album length?

49 minutes

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:34 pm
by Jorge
48 minutes

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 8:22 pm
by pnjguy
can anyone in the band do a nice falsetto?

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 8:47 pm
by dprival78
pnjguy wrote:can anyone in the band do a nice falsetto?
ken.

if they'd just give him the chance..

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 8:50 pm
by broken iris
Don't give in Dime! Anything we learn now will just be fodder for whinging and whining later and the last thing you'll want is to answer a bunch of post about how you said this was "Pink Floyd inspired" or "a return to form" when all we will get is a "logical extension of Backspacer".

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 8:59 pm
by Lament
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that a sound collage type song (a la Push Me, Pull Me or Stupid Mop) makes it onto the record.

But it won't be as good as Push Me, Pull Me.


But that might just be cause Push Me, Pull Me is really good.

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:08 pm
by gardenparty
So Dimes heard this thing already, huh?

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:16 pm
by dimejinky99
broken iris wrote:Don't give in Dime! Anything we learn now will just be fodder for whinging and whining later and the last thing you'll want is to answer a bunch of post about how you said this was "Pink Floyd inspired" or "a return to form" when all we will get is a "logical extension of Backspacer".

What? Some guy took the piss. I laughed. And this? Somebody posted that Mike said pink floyd. I heard as much as you. Will probably get it a few days before of they use the same distributor here. I'll tell you then.

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 1:29 am
by harmless
Strat wrote:Fun little Op-Ed piece by Paul Westerberg regarding song writing. He is probably my favorite. Thought it'd be a good place to put this as we discuss our favorite approaches by our beloved band pearl jam. Maybe Eddie isn't as good at "simple". Perhaps he is best when he is torturing himself to write a great song. Some genius' are struck by lightning...

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/20 ... mpossible/

My last contribution to The Times was on a dead man. I now try to write about a living art.

Painfully aware of the who-what-when-where hocus-pocus that constitutes the journalistic game, I beg the editors’ pardon because illiteracy is part of my stock-in-trade. I write songs where “orange” rhymes with “gorgeous” and “chin” with “gasoline.”

O.K., and now to explain how it’s done. Well, it’s a little like trying to hit a bottle cap with a wire coat hanger. Every day a songwriter rows out into the deep waters in search of his own personal Loch Ness monster. (Just a matter of time, we insist.) Being a weary subscriber to the old inspiration-perspiration theory, I must say that minus the former, you’ll hit a sweaty dead end every time, yet without this purging of what I call “brain vomit,” you’ll never drain the 99 pieces of hooey before one of pure inspiration writes itself for you.

Many a songwriter, when asked how it’s done, will underestimate the talent he was born with and blow his skill for brandishing it out of proportion. My talent (if that’s what we call it) is never, ever doubting goose bumps.

Neil Young insists that if the dog gets up and leaves, whatever you are writing stinks. There is truth here. Phony blues wailing or an ill-suited style attempt will send my own dog running. Yet when it’s so right it’s scary my four-legged audience is guaranteed (though I must say he’s yet to come up with a decent bridge). No, the goose bumps do not lie.

The pros in Nashville have an altogether different approach, similar to modern blues writers: it’s all in the title. “Blues Is My Business” (business is good), for instance, or “18 Wheels and a Sore Behind.” They may make good songs, but rarely do they make your skin crawl. Nobody gets married to a clever song, let alone falls in love to one.

Quick rules of thumb:

-Not from the hippocampus, not gonna fly on campus.
-Aim for the audience’s pockets and you’ll miss their hearts by a mile.
-Even Beethoven plagiarized Handel.

My own creed is “It’s simple or impossible.” To date I’ve written more than 1,000 impossibles. Note that I didn’t say “impossibilities” — incorrect grammar is highly useful. I would never have written a song called “Dis-satisfied.”


Allen Ginsberg said, “first thought, best thought.” This has helped innumerable times when my mind is spinning out of control with ideas.

So, fittingly, after I first sat down and unflinchingly dashed off several pages on the art of the song, on reading it back, panic set in. I had just stolen the entire whack from a book written by Jimmy Webb! Rushing to the bookcase to confirm my fears, I smiled as I realized the book had been digested, cursed and thrown out.

Egotistical thieves all of us. Or make that “thiefs.”
I still didn't read this post about songwriting. Any good?

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 1:49 am
by WtOB?
It's so slow around here at the moment, guys.

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 2:02 am
by McParadigm
harmless wrote:I still didn't read this post about songwriting. Any good?
Well, he wrote "Aim for the audience’s pockets and you’ll miss their hearts by a mile" like it was actual advice, and he rhymed hippocampus with campus, so...

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 2:30 am
by Strat
PAUL WESTERBERG