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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed October 23, 2024 11:46 pm
by tommy
Also I'm not sure if Trump sexually assaulting a woman is an extraordinary claim

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu October 24, 2024 12:03 am
by dimejinky99
tommy wrote:Also I'm not sure if Trump sexually assaulting a woman is an extraordinary claim

A very underage girl possibly not even 10 years old.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu October 24, 2024 12:06 am
by dimejinky99
Bi_3 wrote:Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. It's honestly going to be difficult to believe such a thing suddenly emerges two weeks before the election and is not AI generated.

You get presented with horrifying ‘extraordinary’ footage of what Israel’s doing in Gaza all the time and you don’t believe that so little wonder youll doubt this, given your whole bit

Ps-AI has code in it easily seen and openly telling you it’s AI generated. Phone footage etc doesn’t. It’s a whole different other thing.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu October 24, 2024 12:17 am
by dimejinky99
lol

The Brits. Again. Coming over to our country!

“in two weeks, Americans will again reject the oppression of big government that we rejected in 1776…The far-left Labour Party has inspired Kamala’s dangerously liberal policies and rhetoric.”

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu October 24, 2024 12:31 am
by Bi_3
dimejinky99 wrote:
Ps-AI has code in it easily seen and openly telling you it’s AI generated. Phone footage etc doesn’t. It’s a whole different other thing.
This is definitely not correct

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu October 24, 2024 12:46 am
by dimejinky99
Bi_3 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Ps-AI has code in it easily seen and openly telling you it’s AI generated. Phone footage etc doesn’t. It’s a whole different other thing.
This is definitely not correct

Enlighten us.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu October 24, 2024 2:41 am
by Strat
Is this like the pee pee tape?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu October 24, 2024 2:45 am
by Rangi Guy
Strat wrote:Is this like the pee pee tape?
Sounds as if this has more chance of being released. But until it does - I'm approaching this with the same level of scepticism.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu October 24, 2024 2:59 am
by BurtReynolds
He's gonna be the only epstein client to ever be publicly identified by the government. It just so happens it's the only tape they could find.

Calling it now: pee tape + underage girl + shouting the N-word.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu October 24, 2024 3:38 am
by Biff Pocoroba
Fox’s Brian Kilmede’s explanation of how maybe Trump wasn’t “fully cognizant” that the German generals were Nazis is one of the most unintentionally hilarious things I’ve heard in a while :haha:

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu October 24, 2024 1:30 pm
by Bi_3
dimejinky99 wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Ps-AI has code in it easily seen and openly telling you it’s AI generated. Phone footage etc doesn’t. It’s a whole different other thing.
This is definitely not correct

Enlighten us.
Dime, there has been literally thousands of stories in the media recently, going back to when ChatGPT hit the mainstream (if not before), about how AI videos will create an uncontrollable disinformation environment. If it was a simple as you say to detect them, I encourage you to reach out to those reporters and researchers and let them know what you've found so the world doesn't fall victim to these hoaxes.


And you can just re-record an AI video using screen capture tools or with your phone camera, akin to how people used to take videos in movie theaters.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu October 24, 2024 1:45 pm
by dimejinky99
Bi_3 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Ps-AI has code in it easily seen and openly telling you it’s AI generated. Phone footage etc doesn’t. It’s a whole different other thing.
This is definitely not correct

Enlighten us.
Dime, there has been literally thousands of stories in the media recently, going back to when ChatGPT hit the mainstream (if not before), about how AI videos will create an uncontrollable disinformation environment. If it was a simple as you say to detect them, I encourage you to reach out to those reporters and researchers and let them know what you've found so the world doesn't fall victim to these hoaxes.


And you can just re-record an AI video using screen capture tools or with your phone camera, akin to how people used to take videos in movie theaters.


Oh dear
You’re saying even a moderately capable tech savvy journalist or investigator couldn’t figure out the difference in the code between genuine footage and ai generated.
You’re going for that as a defence of an alleged molestation of a child?
They faked it!

Do better.
Ps Just to your last bit, they never and still don’t use ai to clean up the footage filmed in cinemas. I wanna see gladiator II at home dammit. Hurry up cleaning it up it’s a blurry external noise mess right now on the streamers

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu October 24, 2024 1:57 pm
by Bi_3
dimejinky99 wrote: You’re saying even a moderately capable tech savvy journalist or investigator couldn’t figure out the difference in the code between genuine footage and ai generated.
Yes.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu October 24, 2024 2:03 pm
by BurtReynolds
It's a simple matter to remove AI metadata from images, but I don't think deepfakes are quite ready to be rolled out as a propaganda tool just yet. But who knows what they have behind the curtain.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu October 24, 2024 2:29 pm
by Bi_3
BurtReynolds wrote:It's a simple matter to remove AI metadata from images, but I don't think deepfakes are quite ready to be rolled out as a propaganda tool just yet. But who knows what they have behind the curtain.
You wouldn't need to deepfake the whole thing. Just transcode/dither existing video to make the source unique from detection by a frame-hashing tool, add artificial objects and layers to it, transcode/dither it a few more times, and then record it by holding a smart phone at the screen it's being played on so it looks like it was discretely filmed without the subject knowing. Similar to how 'analog horror' is made. Release it a day before the general election and people won't have time to analyze it. So if there is uncirculated video of Trump sitting next to a girl at an event, which there most certainly is because he acts like a pervert frequently, modifying that video to make it look like he gropes her would not be that difficult for motivated bad actors. TLDR: 'Caught in 4k' can be detected, 'caught in 240p' not so much.

But more importantly, people want to believe. Desperately. So even if there is some doubt, the damage will be done.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu October 24, 2024 2:44 pm
by BurtReynolds
Once it can consistently create realistic hands, it's over.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu October 24, 2024 2:49 pm
by Jorge
Biff Pocoroba wrote:Fox’s Brian Kilmede’s explanation of how maybe Trump wasn’t “fully cognizant” that the German generals were Nazis is one of the most unintentionally hilarious things I’ve heard in a while :haha:
That was funny but also... kind of plausible?!

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu October 24, 2024 2:50 pm
by tommy
BurtReynolds wrote:Once it can consistently create realistic hands, it's over.

AI creating weird hands is actually a plus if it's making a Trump video

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu October 24, 2024 2:52 pm
by B
tommy wrote:Even if it's true it won't matter. Nobody cares for some reason.
:(

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu October 24, 2024 10:18 pm
by wease
Jorge wrote:
Biff Pocoroba wrote:Fox’s Brian Kilmede’s explanation of how maybe Trump wasn’t “fully cognizant” that the German generals were Nazis is one of the most unintentionally hilarious things I’ve heard in a while :haha:
That was funny but also... kind of plausible?!
Not plausible that he doesn't realize they were Nazis. Completely plausible that he doesn’t understand they tried to kill Hitler multiple times.