Red Mosquito

Oh deary....

dimejinky99 wrote:it is real.

all over the news here too

there is no bottom

and here I thought felons couldn't run for any office.


What happens if a convicted felon – like Trump – wins the presidency?

With Election Day here and the polls neck-and-neck, Trump could soon make history as the first president to run the country from a prison cell

Joe Sommerlad

Earlier this year, Donald Trump made history by becoming the first former president ever convicted of a crime.

Now, with Election Day looming and the Republican neck-and-neck with Kamala Harris in the polls, he could make history again: by becoming the first convicted felon elected to the nation’s highest office.

On May 30, Trump was convicted in New York of 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in order to conceal a $130,000 hush money payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels in the days before the 2016 election, in order to silence her about an alleged sexual encounter one decade earlier.


Judge Juan Merchan has since delayed his sentencing until after the November 5 election but could hand down jail time to Trump – potentially paving the way for an unprecedented situation where the president of the US is running the country from a prison cell.

As it stands, there are four scenarios that could play out:

1. Trump could win the election and then be sentenced to prison by Judge Merchan on November 26.

2. He could win the election but be spared jail at his sentencing.

3. He could lose the election and be jailed.

4. He could lose the election but be given a lesser sentence.

So what would happen if Trump wins the election and then gets jail time?

In the US Constitution, there are no restrictions barring a convicted felon from seeking or winning elected office, even if that ultimately means becoming president and running the country from prison.

But the Constitution also offers no explanation for what should happen in that scenario.

As a highly litigious individual, Trump is likely to appeal whatever sentence Judge Merchan hands down.

But, he would not be able to use the powers of the presidency to pardon himself – and in turn spare himself from prison – because the New York case involves state charges.

“The state and federal systems in the United States are completely separate,” Steve Duffy, a jury consultant at Trial Behavior Consulting, told The Independent prior to the hush money trial verdict earlier this year.

“The only person who could pardon him would be the governor of New York – who is exceedingly unlikely to do that,” Duffy added.

Assuming Democratic Governor Kathy Hochul does not take such a step, a legal brawl is likely to break out to determine whether there is a way for the commander-in-chief to wriggle out of serving time.

The feud could end up all the way at the Supreme Court – a nine-justice court consisting of three Trump appointees.

If, after exhausting all legal avenues, Trump still finds himself unable to avoid jail, it could pave the way for calls for his third impeachment or for attempts to remove him from office via the 25th Amendment.

Should that fail and he really does find himself serving as president of the US from a jail cell, Trump would quickly find that there are many duties and trappings of the role he would simply not be able to fulfil while incarcerated.

The viewing of classified materials would create an obvious national security conflict.

And traveling abroad to meet fellow world leaders at summits or on diplomatic missions would obviously also be out of bounds.

Stickman wrote:and here I thought felons couldn't run for any office.


What happens if a convicted felon – like Trump – wins the presidency?

With Election Day here and the polls neck-and-neck, Trump could soon make history as the first president to run the country from a prison cell

Joe Sommerlad

Earlier this year, Donald Trump made history by becoming the first former president ever convicted of a crime.

Now, with Election Day looming and the Republican neck-and-neck with Kamala Harris in the polls, he could make history again: by becoming the first convicted felon elected to the nation’s highest office.

On May 30, Trump was convicted in New York of 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in order to conceal a $130,000 hush money payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels in the days before the 2016 election, in order to silence her about an alleged sexual encounter one decade earlier.


Judge Juan Merchan has since delayed his sentencing until after the November 5 election but could hand down jail time to Trump – potentially paving the way for an unprecedented situation where the president of the US is running the country from a prison cell.

As it stands, there are four scenarios that could play out:

1. Trump could win the election and then be sentenced to prison by Judge Merchan on November 26.

2. He could win the election but be spared jail at his sentencing.

3. He could lose the election and be jailed.

4. He could lose the election but be given a lesser sentence.

So what would happen if Trump wins the election and then gets jail time?

In the US Constitution, there are no restrictions barring a convicted felon from seeking or winning elected office, even if that ultimately means becoming president and running the country from prison.

But the Constitution also offers no explanation for what should happen in that scenario.

As a highly litigious individual, Trump is likely to appeal whatever sentence Judge Merchan hands down.

But, he would not be able to use the powers of the presidency to pardon himself – and in turn spare himself from prison – because the New York case involves state charges.

“The state and federal systems in the United States are completely separate,” Steve Duffy, a jury consultant at Trial Behavior Consulting, told The Independent prior to the hush money trial verdict earlier this year.

“The only person who could pardon him would be the governor of New York – who is exceedingly unlikely to do that,” Duffy added.

Assuming Democratic Governor Kathy Hochul does not take such a step, a legal brawl is likely to break out to determine whether there is a way for the commander-in-chief to wriggle out of serving time.

The feud could end up all the way at the Supreme Court – a nine-justice court consisting of three Trump appointees.

If, after exhausting all legal avenues, Trump still finds himself unable to avoid jail, it could pave the way for calls for his third impeachment or for attempts to remove him from office via the 25th Amendment.

Should that fail and he really does find himself serving as president of the US from a jail cell, Trump would quickly find that there are many duties and trappings of the role he would simply not be able to fulfil while incarcerated.

The viewing of classified materials would create an obvious national security conflict.

And traveling abroad to meet fellow world leaders at summits or on diplomatic missions would obviously also be out of bounds.

This is the outcome we all deserve if he's elected once again. Seems very fitting.

I've not paid attention to anything today, any big stories yet?

tragabigzanda wrote:I've not paid attention to anything today, any big stories yet?

Haven’t seen anything really interesting. Turnout seems high anecdotally. Everyone is just waiting.

tragabigzanda wrote:I've not paid attention to anything today, any big stories yet?

the broncos made a trade that gets them a 2025 6th round draft pick

tragabigzanda wrote:I've not paid attention to anything today, any big stories yet?

We're fucked.

doug rr wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:I've not paid attention to anything today, any big stories yet?

the broncos made a trade that gets them a 2025 6th round draft pick

Wait, really? What the trade?

I didn't pay attention for just one day and now I'm totally out of the loop. Did Jason Kelce kill a squirrel or something?

Farmer John wrote:I didn't pay attention for just one day and now I'm totally out of the loop. Did Jason Kelce kill a squirrel or something?

Hell of a guess.

Farmer John wrote:I didn't pay attention for just one day and now I'm totally out of the loop. Did Jason Kelce kill a squirrel or something?

yes but the squirrel was MAGA so the press has already moved on

Now I'm hearing the squirrel was pals with Epstein. It's all starting to make sense.

well they have been known to attend the white parties

tragabigzanda wrote:well they have been known to attend the white parties

Not even squirrels bro

Bi_3 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:well they have been known to attend the white parties

Not even squirrels bro

i don't see race.

A few weeks ago I saw a white squirrel. Pretty cool.

tommy wrote:A few weeks ago I saw a white squirrel. Pretty cool.

Probably a Harris voter

Bi_3 wrote:

tommy wrote:A few weeks ago I saw a white squirrel. Pretty cool.

Probably a Harris voter

I could tell that it loved it's daughter.

tommy wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

tommy wrote:A few weeks ago I saw a white squirrel. Pretty cool.

Probably a Harris voter

I could tell that it loved it's daughter.

I bet it has it's little pile of twigs in the corner of the bedroom.