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Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue October 12, 2021 5:50 pm
by VinylGuy
epilogue wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:jesus guys
I don't remember when she jesus'd guys. But I haven't seen it in a while.
omg

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue October 12, 2021 5:54 pm
by tree_
The reason for a justice system in society is to try to prevent people from determining for themselves who, for instance, deserve to be carved up with a scalpel for their sins. And mental institutions are for people who would not only have the capacity to commit such acts, but also actually derive pleasure from them (you know, crazy people).

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue October 12, 2021 5:55 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:yeah i don't know what the clinical definitions are, maybe you're right. What I'm trying to say is that I liked her and don't think she was ever emotionally unstable.
She's never emotionally unstable. She clearly doesn't have a mental disorder in that regard. Her aggressive anti-social behavior is earned and justified.

Like you say, clinically, maybe that still qualifies her as a sociopath or a psychopath (we've used both words and I'm not sure which one we're supposed to be discussing here). I'm not a doctor. But I would think that trauma induced behavior is a different beast. Are sociopaths born or made? Does one develop sociopath behavior? Or is one born a sociopath?

She clearly has PTSD. But does that make her a sociopath? I really don't know. Like I said, I'm not a doctor. But if she's a sociopath then so John Rambo and Cliff Booth and John Wick and on and on...

Maybe she is and maybe that's a fair label. But either way I think the character is justified and likeable and everything and specific and stable.

Team trag and argo

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue October 12, 2021 5:55 pm
by VinylGuy
Im guessing the guy from Death Wish is a perfect, reasonable guy for RM.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue October 12, 2021 5:58 pm
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:
epilogue wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:jesus guys
I don't remember when she jesus'd guys. But I haven't seen it in a while.
omg
VinylGuy wrote:ok, i can see this is going nowhere.

I just want to talk about movies man.
Good chat

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue October 12, 2021 6:01 pm
by VinylGuy
you are in a mood for a fight i see.

I already discuss why i think she is deranged and a sociopath joe

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue October 12, 2021 6:02 pm
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:you are in a mood for a fight i see.

I already discuss why i think she is deranged and a sociopath joe
I have zero interest in fighting, Guy.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue October 12, 2021 6:03 pm
by VinylGuy
epilogue wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:yeah i don't know what the clinical definitions are, maybe you're right. What I'm trying to say is that I liked her and don't think she was ever emotionally unstable.
She's never emotionally unstable. She clearly doesn't have a mental disorder in that regard. Her aggressive anti-social behavior is earned and justified.

Like you say, clinically, maybe that still qualifies her as a sociopath or a psychopath (we've used both words and I'm not sure which one we're supposed to be discussing here). I'm not a doctor. But I would think that trauma induced behavior is a different beast. Are sociopaths born or made? Does one develop sociopath behavior? Or is one born a sociopath?

She clearly has PTSD. But does that make her a sociopath? I really don't know. Like I said, I'm not a doctor. But if she's a sociopath then so John Rambo and Cliff Booth and John Wick and on and on...

Maybe she is and maybe that's a fair label. But either way I think the character is justified and likeable and everything and specific and stable.

Team trag and argo
She is super unstable emotionally. Have you seen the movie? she cant seem to talk to anyone, or have a relationship with anyone. Her whole life is motorized by revenge. She does horrible stuff to both her former classmate and the principal of the school.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue October 12, 2021 6:05 pm
by VinylGuy
epilogue wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:you are in a mood for a fight i see.

I already discuss why i think she is deranged and a sociopath joe
I have zero interest in fighting, Guy.
then why made that reply

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue October 12, 2021 6:05 pm
by VinylGuy
epilogue wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:you are in a mood for a fight i see.

I already discuss why i think she is deranged and a sociopath joe
I have zero interest in fighting, Guy.
then why made that reply

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue October 12, 2021 6:06 pm
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:
epilogue wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:you are in a mood for a fight i see.

I already discuss why i think she is deranged and a sociopath joe
I have zero interest in fighting, Guy.
then why made that reply
To illustrate an irony.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue October 12, 2021 6:06 pm
by tree_
The way you can know she is crazy is, ask yourself if you want a society filled with people like her. You'd better hope everyone's moral compasses are perfect.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue October 12, 2021 6:11 pm
by VinylGuy
epilogue wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
epilogue wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:you are in a mood for a fight i see.

I already discuss why i think she is deranged and a sociopath joe
I have zero interest in fighting, Guy.
then why made that reply
To illustrate an irony.
but i was actually talking about the movie.

Whatever

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue October 12, 2021 6:12 pm
by Anders
I own that movie, but haven’t seen it yet. Sounds interesting. Trying not too read too much here.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue October 12, 2021 6:23 pm
by epilogue
tree_ wrote:The way you can know she is crazy is, ask yourself if you want a society filled with people like her. You'd better hope everyone's moral compasses are perfect.
She isn't crazy she's traumatized. PTSD isn't crazy. I wouldn't classify Cassie as deranged. I don't think she's wild and uncontrolled. Again, she's specific and precise. I think her thinking is clear throughout. Again, any mental illness she may have is caused by trauma disorder.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue October 12, 2021 6:28 pm
by tree_
epilogue wrote:
tree_ wrote:The way you can know she is crazy is, ask yourself if you want a society filled with people like her. You'd better hope everyone's moral compasses are perfect.
She isn't crazy she's traumatized. PTSD isn't crazy. I wouldn't classify Cassie as deranged. I don't think she's wild and uncontrolled. Again, she's specific and precise. I think her thinking is clear throughout. Again, any mental illness she may have is caused by trauma disorder.
In any case of insanity or misfortune at all, it can be soundly argued it isn't their fault. Nonetheless, I wouldn't trust her in my life, and she isn't fit for a healthy life as she is, without substantial change. As for "controlled, specific and precise", that may be true up to a point, but it ultimately led to her
Spoiler: show
murder
, which could have easily happened countless other ways with her actions and how she was living her life. Not exactly the best examples of sane behavior.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue October 12, 2021 6:30 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
i feel like i fall somewhere between all you guys on this one, but also i don’t understand women

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue October 12, 2021 6:31 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue October 12, 2021 6:33 pm
by tree_
Yeah, PTSD in of itself isn't necessarily "crazy," but deriving pleasure from
Spoiler: show
cutting someone all over their body with a scalpel
surely is.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue October 12, 2021 6:35 pm
by Jorge
Sociopaths can be deliberate, precise, and controlled. Source: I am one