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Re: Election 2020
Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 7:25 pm
by verb_to_trust
Yeah. It's okay if people are Super Pacs.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 7:36 pm
by Hatfield
4/5 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:Ok obviously there’s a massive grey area here with regard to campaign finance, dark money, etc... I was speaking more specifically about messaging.
Isn't Bloomberg just spending a small portion of his own enormous wealth? That's VERY different than Super PAC/dark money/shell corporation campaign funding.
It's different because the problem with "dark money" is not knowing the motivations of people/corporations donating to a candidate. Like it or not, we know the motivation behind Bloomberg's donations to himself.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 7:44 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 8:29 pm
by Bi_3
tragabigzanda wrote:Ok obviously there’s a massive grey area here with regard to campaign finance, dark money, etc... I was speaking more specifically about messaging.
And obviously financing plays a huge part of the messaging. But placing one candidate’s loss at the feet of another strikes me as ignoring the core resources available to any candidate if the two major parties: public funding, public airwaves, social media, and above all, a strong message and grassroots energy.
I disagree in the sense the actions taken against rivals during the primary can leave voters with such a negative taste for the eventual winner they aren't motivated to get out and, vote or people who were on the fence about who to vote for (think they groups that went Obama to Trump) have the sway them. Not wanting to be associated with "a billionaire who bought the nomination" may help Trump in November.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 8:31 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 10:05 pm
by Bi_3
https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/soc ... ities.aspx
Willingness to Vote for Candidates With Diverse Characteristics, by Party ID
% Yes, would vote for that person
Republican Independent Democrat
Black 91 97 99
Catholic 95 94 97
Hispanic 90 94 99
A woman 86 95 99
Jewish 92 92 95
An evangelical Christian 88 77 77
Gay or lesbian 62 82 89
Under the age of 40 63 72 75
Over the age of 70 73 68 66
Muslim 42 71 88
An atheist 41 68 69
A socialist 17 45 76
GALLUP, JAN. 16-29, 2020
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 10:58 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 11:16 pm
by verb_to_trust
Cool new racist Bloomberg audio.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 11:18 pm
by Anders
Interesting stats.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 11:38 pm
by 96583UP
i wonder if Biden will even make it to Super Tuesday
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 11:41 pm
by Bi_3
Anders wrote:Interesting stats.
Yup. It appears the only thing that rally turns off voters is socialism
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 12:31 am
by BurtReynolds
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 1:04 am
by E.H. Ruddock
Yang dropping out
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 1:08 am
by BurtReynolds
BUT MY 1000 DOLLARS!?
this sucks.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 1:28 am
by bune
you have bitcoin so it evens out.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 1:31 am
by Green Habit
Green Habit wrote:This is how I feel like it's going to go, a feeling that will likely be proven horribly wrong:
--Iowa: Probably do or die for Mayor Pete and Klobuchar. I think they need to either get a plurality or narrowly miss it to stay afloat. At least one of them should be doomed after today, and maybe both of them.
--New Hampshire: Highly unlikely, but I could see this being a long shot do or die moment for Warren if she gets crushed in both Iowa and here, but I doubt she does.
Well, as of now everything except the bolded is looking really wrong.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 1:33 am
by Bi_3
BurtReynolds wrote:BUT MY 1000 DOLLARS!?
this sucks.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 1:34 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 2:07 am
by BurtReynolds
Does Warren's voice turn off anyone else? She always sounds so dramatic. I get anxious just hearing it.
I feel like that might have something to do with her decline.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 2:10 am
by 96583UP
BurtReynolds wrote:Does Warren's voice turn off anyone else? She always sounds so dramatic. I get anxious just hearing it.
I feel like that might have something to do with her decline.
Frantic Aunt Who Won't Shut Up
who wouldn't want that as President
