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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri March 03, 2017 9:24 pm
by BurtReynolds
McParadigm wrote:I'm bored with this discussion. What's Donald Trump up to these days?
He was on a boat today I think.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri March 03, 2017 9:24 pm
by McParadigm
BurtReynolds wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I'm bored with this discussion. What's Donald Trump up to these days?
He was on a boat today I think.
Ha ha what an asshole

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri March 03, 2017 9:31 pm
by philpritchard
McParadigm wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I'm bored with this discussion. What's Donald Trump up to these days?
He was on a boat today I think.
Ha ha what an asshole
You know who else was on a boat once?

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Coincidence?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri March 03, 2017 9:39 pm
by Rob
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
"Libertarian" is retard speak for "I'm too much of a pussy to admit that I am a right wing Republican asshole".
I don't post much here, but I read this forum every day. You, my friend, seem to epitomize everything wrong with "liberals." Everyone knows the Tea Partier caricature, and the last 18 months (especially the last 4) have really revealed the left wing parallel. I say this as a proud Bernie Sanders supporter: please stop making us all look bad.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri March 03, 2017 9:44 pm
by Simple Torture
McParadigm wrote:I'm bored with this discussion. What's Donald Trump up to these days?
Struggling to spell the word "hereby" on Twitter.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri March 03, 2017 9:45 pm
by McParadigm
philpritchard wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I'm bored with this discussion. What's Donald Trump up to these days?
He was on a boat today I think.
Ha ha what an asshole
You know who else was on a boat once?

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Coincidence?
TAKE TO THE SEA

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri March 03, 2017 9:54 pm
by BurtReynolds
McParadigm wrote:
philpritchard wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I'm bored with this discussion. What's Donald Trump up to these days?
He was on a boat today I think.
Ha ha what an asshole
You know who else was on a boat once?

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Coincidence?
TAKE TO THE SEA
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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri March 03, 2017 9:57 pm
by McParadigm
That's sorta endearing.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri March 03, 2017 9:59 pm
by BurtReynolds
I don't know any libertarians who voted for Trump, I certainly didn't, but my friends are pretty hardcore about it, and are intelligent enough to know the difference between a Republican authoritarian and a libertarian.

I wonder what a libertarian leaning democrat would look like. They would never get past the primaries because of the identity politics and socialism, but probably win in the general. They'd probably clean up with the hispanics and white working class. What more do you need?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri March 03, 2017 10:04 pm
by BurtReynolds
wait, forget I said that. Working class whites are all about Trump now.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri March 03, 2017 10:36 pm
by BurtReynolds
BurtReynolds wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
philpritchard wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I'm bored with this discussion. What's Donald Trump up to these days?
He was on a boat today I think.
Ha ha what an asshole
You know who else was on a boat once?

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Coincidence?
TAKE TO THE SEA
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but seriously. His neck defies all logic and reason.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri March 03, 2017 10:49 pm
by wease
BurtReynolds wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
philpritchard wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I'm bored with this discussion. What's Donald Trump up to these days?
He was on a boat today I think.
Ha ha what an asshole
You know who else was on a boat once?

Image

Coincidence?
TAKE TO THE SEA
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but seriously. His neck defies all logic and reason.
His face looks like Jabba.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri March 03, 2017 11:39 pm
by B
PHATJ wrote:
B wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Kaius wrote:Can you explain this
PHATJ wrote:The idea that some government official off in some building somewhere knows how to better parent a child than its own parents is extremely dangerous.
to me please?
It's seems pretty self explanatory. Can you be more specific as to what your question is?
Maybe some examples of the specific rules you oppose, because I don't think parenting has come up very much in the national debate.
I think I just touched on some of that in my post to Kaius.
You don't expect me to read all the quintuple quoted bullshit in this thread, do you? tldr

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri March 03, 2017 11:41 pm
by PHATJ
B wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
B wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Kaius wrote:Can you explain this
PHATJ wrote:The idea that some government official off in some building somewhere knows how to better parent a child than its own parents is extremely dangerous.
to me please?
It's seems pretty self explanatory. Can you be more specific as to what your question is?
Maybe some examples of the specific rules you oppose, because I don't think parenting has come up very much in the national debate.
I think I just touched on some of that in my post to Kaius.
You don't expect me to read all the quintuple quoted bullshit in this thread, do you? tldr
I don't care if you do or don't.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri March 03, 2017 11:43 pm
by Jorge
PHATJ wrote:
B wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
B wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Kaius wrote:Can you explain this
PHATJ wrote:The idea that some government official off in some building somewhere knows how to better parent a child than its own parents is extremely dangerous.
to me please?
It's seems pretty self explanatory. Can you be more specific as to what your question is?
Maybe some examples of the specific rules you oppose, because I don't think parenting has come up very much in the national debate.
I think I just touched on some of that in my post to Kaius.
You don't expect me to read all the quintuple quoted bullshit in this thread, do you? tldr
I don't care if you do or don't.
Such is the Libertarian way!

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat March 04, 2017 1:18 am
by PHATJ
theplatypus wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
B wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
B wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Kaius wrote:Can you explain this
PHATJ wrote:The idea that some government official off in some building somewhere knows how to better parent a child than its own parents is extremely dangerous.
to me please?
It's seems pretty self explanatory. Can you be more specific as to what your question is?
Maybe some examples of the specific rules you oppose, because I don't think parenting has come up very much in the national debate.
I think I just touched on some of that in my post to Kaius.
You don't expect me to read all the quintuple quoted bullshit in this thread, do you? tldr
I don't care if you do or don't.
Such is the Libertarian way!
I'm a man of principles.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat March 04, 2017 1:39 am
by PHATJ
More information is coming out about the nature of Sessions' two meetings with a Russian diplomat. This is why I refuse to convict (in the court of public opinion) before we know all of the evidence (like the fact that one of the meetings was set up by the Obama administration).

"It's understandable that the American people might be growing weary of the media hyperbole not quite living up to the hype. Another revelation is making it more difficult to see through the removal of Jeff Sessions as Attorney General, which appears to have been the Democrats' plan all along.

It has been pointed out before that the context of Jeff Sessions, former Republican Senator from Alabama, and Senator Al Franken (D-MN) was in light of a report that Russians were contacting Trump surrogates to discuss election matters.

Sessions' response, though incomplete, left out two occasions when he met the Russian ambassador while acting as a Senator. One time was after a Heritage Foundation speech around the time of the Republican National Convention with approximately 50 ambassadors in the room. Sessions shook Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak's hand and had a brief exchange with him. The second time was in Sessions' office on Capitol Hill with two U.S. senior officials in attendance.

The first time could hardly be considered serious grounds for accusing the Senator of discussing campaign matters with a foreign agent, although such evidence of the content of that discussion is still outstanding barring witnesses or video footage. It turns out, however, that there is a key bit of information that should be reported anytime this meeting is mentioned in a news story.

It was set up by the Obama administration. Hans von Spakovsky, as he mentioned in a piece “Get real, Democrats, there is no good reason for Sessions to resign” published at Fox News (link: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/03/ ... esign.html ) reveals the information. As reported by The Daily Caller (link: http://ijr.com/2017/03/816029-the-obama ... questions/ ).

The Obama administration helped set up the first meeting Jeff Sessions had with the Russian ambassador in 2016.

Heritage Foundation scholar Hans von Spakovsky wrote at FoxNews.com that the event at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland that his employer hosted was attended by Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

Spakovsky writes that the event was a conference titled “Global Partners in Diplomacy,” where Sessions was the keynote speaker. It was sponsored by the State Department, the Heritage Foundation and other organizations.

“The conference was an educational program for ambassadors invited by the Obama State Department to observe the convention. The Obama State Department handled all of the coordination with ambassadors and their staff, of which there were about 100 at the conference,” Spakovsky wrote.

“Apparently, after Sessions finished speaking,“ Spakovsky adds, ”a small group of ambassadors—including the Russian ambassador—approached the senator as he left the stage and thanked him for his remarks. That’s the first ‘meeting.’ And it’s hardly an occasion—much less a venue—in when a conspiracy to ‘interfere’ with the November election could be hatched.”

“There is no reason for Attorney General Sessions to resign,” Spakovsky added.

Earlier Friday it was reported that the White House met with Russian Ambassador Kislyak on 22 separate occasions. Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV) provided some necessary context for Sessions' meetings.

“Yes, that happens,” Manchin said in response to a question by CNN's Alisyn Camerota. “We meet with all the ambassadors or try to anyway to build relationships. It’s not unusual."

On another occasion, Manchin also spoke up to address concerns that Sessions' conversations were unusual or inappropriate.

“I met with the Russian ambassador with other senators with the Armed Services Committee,” he said, providing details to Breitbart. “As I recall, a lot of that was about NSAS and space and improving the working environment, because we are using Russian rock bets, so there are a lot of conversations with a lot of ambassadors–we all do.”

The main questions outstanding are the content of the conversation between Sessions and Kislyak within his office — in the presence of two U.S. senior staff members — and whether or not his response to Sen. Franken at his confirmation hearing constitutes perjury.

In regards to the second issue, an expert cited at Politico, Richard Painter, a top ethics lawyer from the Bush administration, doubts that any improper statement made by Sessions rises to the level of perjury.

“It is, at best, very misleading testimony,” he said. “I don't go so far as to say that it's perjury, but there is a lesser charge of failing to provide accurate information to Congress.”

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat March 04, 2017 1:47 am
by Green Habit
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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat March 04, 2017 2:03 am
by Jorge

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat March 04, 2017 3:01 am
by McParadigm
Now I know you're asking, "Barry and Levon...where do you get $12m for Mara Lago?"

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