Re: Lightning Bolt: How Harmless killed some time...
Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 2:07 am
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PHATJ wrote:This album shits the bed.
I remember being cautiously optimistic for the release of Lightning Bolt. I thought there was no way it could be worse than Backspacer, which up to that point was the only PJ album that had really disappointed me, with only 2-3 songs I cared much for.
MYM, the lead single, should have caused me pause, but I was excited and optimistic, and was looking for things to be excited about. I kinda thought the intro sounded like Soundgarden, which was cool, and I thought it could be promising coming off of Backspacer, but I wasn’t loving it... it was too... similarly uninspired. And Ed’s “anger” sounds so manufactured and inauthentic. It’s off-putting.
Soon thereafter Lightning Bolt was played on a Late Nite TV show (can’t remember which show) and I was once again excited. Ed completely fucked up the lyrics and it was sloppy in spots, but it had that killer outro solo, and I thought this sounded like the best pure “classic rock” sounding PJ song they’d made in a long time. I remember posting with Stip about this song and both of us being fired up. I thought we might be cooking with fire. Then I heard the album version... and everything that could’ve been exciting was muted, and cut, and faded out, and butchered. Fuck you, BOB.
Next I heard Let the Records Play. I thought the short intro was pretty sweet, and Stone’s guitar tone was cool, I was excited for 10 seconds...that was the last time I was excited about this song. It’s hokey and completely underwhelming, if not mildly embarrassing.
Then Sirens. Sirens has always reminded me of a poor man’s Collective Soul. Take that for what it’s worth.
Then came Pendulum, which is a cool-ish sounding, mellow dramatic, mood song with bad production and underdeveloped ideas, and some-fucking-how it’s one of the better songs on the album.
Every song that followed got worse.
Infallible is a cool idea destroyed by poor artistic decisions and more bad production.
Getaway is maybe the most forgettable PJ opener (but not the worst, that honor goes to GSMF). It’s passable musically, with terrible lyrics, and a completely bland and forgettable melody.
MFS is trying way too hard, and I have zero interest.
Swallowed Whole is in the wrong tempo, and key, and sounds like shit, but the inkling of a good song might exist in here somewhere. This sounds like a shitty REM wannabe. Maybe they could re-work it into a somewhat less annoying REM wannabe. (Retrograde is the significantly superior version of the better ideas in Swallowed Whole.)
Yellow Moon is completely boring and uninspired and this is a stereotypical type of song that PJ should do so well. Yellow Moon acts like it’s embarrassed to be apart of such a mishmash of nonsense surrounding it, and just doesn’t even want to be there. Incredibly, this is an album highlight.
Future Days might be an ok song (definitely not a standout, but a better solo-Ed effort than something like The End) if BOB hadn’t just sprayed the fucker with diarrhea.
And finally, Sleeping By Myself. I fucking hate that this song was put on this album. This song is exactly why Pearl Jam had a Holiday Single program. Ed already did it better on Uke Songs, and releasing it here instead of any other shit they had at the time (Ole, or Of The Earth, or whatever-the-fucking-ever) is an embarrassment. I’ll never view it any other way.
So needless to say, coming off of what I thought had to be Pearl Jam’s low point in Backspacer, and excited and optimistic for new music from my favorite band, I was less than enthused when Pearl Jam plopped out this obnoxiously polished turd jungle.
Then they toured it for 3/4 of a damn decade.
That’s just not cool, PJ. Apologize.
F U Lightning Bolt.
96583UP wrote:CHANGE THE THREAD TITLE, PLEASE
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at this point it might be future days for meAnders wrote:Which Lightning Bolt songs improve the most live?
Just doing the Lord’s work.coptheriotact wrote:Phatj’s rant is so good, I could just read that post if I ever think I need to listen to lightning bolt again
PHATJ wrote:I posted this in the other LB thread, but both threads deserve it.
PHATJ wrote:This album shits the bed.
I remember being cautiously optimistic for the release of Lightning Bolt. I thought there was no way it could be worse than Backspacer, which up to that point was the only PJ album that had really disappointed me, with only 2-3 songs I cared much for.
MYM, the lead single, should have caused me pause, but I was excited and optimistic, and was looking for things to be excited about. I kinda thought the intro sounded like Soundgarden, which was cool, and I thought it could be promising coming off of Backspacer, but I wasn’t loving it... it was too... similarly uninspired. And Ed’s “anger” sounds so manufactured and inauthentic. It’s off-putting.
Soon thereafter Lightning Bolt was played on a Late Nite TV show (can’t remember which show) and I was once again excited. Ed completely fucked up the lyrics and it was sloppy in spots, but it had that killer outro solo, and I thought this sounded like the best pure “classic rock” sounding PJ song they’d made in a long time. I remember posting with Stip about this song and both of us being fired up. I thought we might be cooking with fire. Then I heard the album version... and everything that could’ve been exciting was muted, and cut, and faded out, and butchered. Fuck you, BOB.
Next I heard Let the Records Play. I thought the short intro was pretty sweet, and Stone’s guitar tone was cool, I was excited for 10 seconds...that was the last time I was excited about this song. It’s hokey and completely underwhelming, if not mildly embarrassing.
Then Sirens. Sirens has always reminded me of a poor man’s Collective Soul. Take that for what it’s worth.
Then came Pendulum, which is a cool-ish sounding, mellow dramatic, mood song with bad production and underdeveloped ideas, and some-fucking-how it’s one of the better songs on the album.
Every song that followed got worse.
Infallible is a cool idea destroyed by poor artistic decisions and more bad production.
Getaway is maybe the most forgettable PJ opener (but not the worst, that honor goes to GSMF). It’s passable musically, with terrible lyrics, and a completely bland and forgettable melody.
MFS is trying way too hard, and I have zero interest.
Swallowed Whole is in the wrong tempo, and key, and sounds like shit, but the inkling of a good song might exist in here somewhere. This sounds like a shitty REM wannabe. Maybe they could re-work it into a somewhat less annoying REM wannabe. (Retrograde is the significantly superior version of the better ideas in Swallowed Whole.)
Yellow Moon is completely boring and uninspired and this is a stereotypical type of song that PJ should do so well. Yellow Moon acts like it’s embarrassed to be apart of such a mishmash of nonsense surrounding it, and just doesn’t even want to be there. Incredibly, this is an album highlight.
Future Days might be an ok song (definitely not a standout, but a better solo-Ed effort than something like The End) if BOB hadn’t just sprayed the fucker with diarrhea.
And finally, Sleeping By Myself. I fucking hate that this song was put on this album. This song is exactly why Pearl Jam had a Holiday Single program. Ed already did it better on Uke Songs, and releasing it here instead of any other shit they had at the time (Ole, or Of The Earth, or whatever-the-fucking-ever) is an embarrassment. I’ll never view it any other way.
So needless to say, coming off of what I thought had to be Pearl Jam’s low point in Backspacer, and excited and optimistic for new music from my favorite band, I was less than enthused when Pearl Jam plopped out this obnoxiously polished turd jungle.
Then they toured it for 3/4 of a damn decade.
That’s just not cool, PJ. Apologize.
F U Lightning Bolt.
Did you highlight the other comments because you agree or disagree?reconstruction_ seeds wrote:Its pretty clear ed wasn't trying to sound angry in MYM.
about as clear as a cloudy dayreconstruction_ seeds wrote:Its pretty clear ed wasn't trying to sound angry in MYM.