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Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Wed April 20, 2022 1:16 pm
by tree_
JuanHamm wrote:
tree_ wrote:Billy Crystal said it was a crime

Billy Crystal did blackface, so his opinion is no longer relevant
True

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 1:34 pm
by Mickey
This is Will Smith's fault

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 1:39 pm
by tree_
Did he insult a lady?

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 4:31 pm
by VinylGuy
tree_ wrote:Did he insult a lady?
No, but Chapelle also didnt

WOOOOWWWW it was a joke

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 4:33 pm
by tree_
Insulting jokes are the equivalent of physical violence don’t you know

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 4:46 pm
by Mickey
It seems he made an insulting joke after he was attacked, so it's safe to say he deserved it and his attacker is just operating at a higher order of consciousness and time.

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 4:51 pm
by tree_
makes sense

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 4:57 pm
by Mickey
What do you make of the whole Chappelle/trans issue, tree_?

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 4:57 pm
by BurtReynolds
preemptive strike

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 5:00 pm
by tree_
Mickey wrote:What do you make of the whole Chappelle/trans issue, tree_?
I don't know much about Chapelle or his views, but as far as I'm concerned, if a joke is funny, all topics are fair game in the appropriate setting.

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 5:30 pm
by tree_
They appear to have beaten the guy up pretty good. Chappelle even said he "stomped" him backstage.. weird.. imagining Chris Rock, Chapelle, and Jamie Fox beating up on the guy.. very weird.. wonder if there will be consequences for them too

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Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 5:32 pm
by BurtReynolds
probably just a garden variety lunatic.

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 5:33 pm
by Jorge
What the hell hahaha

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 6:02 pm
by Ms Harmless
"After returning to the stage on Tuesday, the 48-year-old appeared to make light of the controversy, suggesting to the audience that the attacker "was a trans man"."

the article this is from says Chapelle was unharmed, the guy was jailed and taken for mental health treatment; apparently he had a handgun with a knife attached

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 6:04 pm
by Ms Harmless
I guess you can decide whether "lol I told you trans people are psychos" is the joke of a victim or a transphobe

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 6:09 pm
by tree_
Yeah, he's clearly trolling people who think he's a trans-phobe. From what I heard, he has/had a trans friend whom he was very close to, who was suicidal, and he told this story on stage. So clearly he doesn't hate trans people.

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 6:11 pm
by Ms Harmless
I disagree

he tells transphobic jokes and then uses "I had a trans friend!" as a get-out clause

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 6:12 pm
by tree_
https://deadline.com/2021/10/dave-chapp ... 234853511/

it is possible to love/support someone/something and make jokes about them at the same time

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 6:14 pm
by Ms Harmless
my take (which I won't defend for days on end) is that he's insulting the memory of his friend; trans people, especially trans women, tend to be suicidal because of things like the constant societal dissmisal of hatred like his as "just jokes"

Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 6:14 pm
by Ms Harmless
tree_ wrote:https://deadline.com/2021/10/dave-chappelle-the-closer-defended-by-sisters-his-trans-friend-daphne-dorman-1234853511/

it is possible to love/support someone/something and make jokes about them at the same time
that's great tree, you go and do that