Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 5:07 pm
Ole can stay right where it is.
i guess my favorite song from this period is Pendulum, no doubt about it. I love it so much. After that Yellow Moon, Sirens, My Fathers Son and MYM and then Sleeping By Myself.Kevin Davis wrote:I like "Ole" more than every song on Lightning Bolt.
fair enough but you are comparing turds to turds hereMs Harmless wrote:yeah, Olé does "fun" and "silly" about a million times better than "Supersonic" and I'd rather listen to it than "Big Wave"
Big Wave is actually a cool song for me.gardenparty wrote:fair enough but you are comparing turds to turds hereMs Harmless wrote:yeah, Olé does "fun" and "silly" about a million times better than "Supersonic" and I'd rather listen to it than "Big Wave"
some turds are an easier shape to shit out than othersgardenparty wrote:fair enough but you are comparing turds to turds hereMs Harmless wrote:yeah, Olé does "fun" and "silly" about a million times better than "Supersonic" and I'd rather listen to it than "Big Wave"
Big Wave is greatVinylGuy wrote:Big Wave is actually a cool song for me.gardenparty wrote:fair enough but you are comparing turds to turds hereMs Harmless wrote:yeah, Olé does "fun" and "silly" about a million times better than "Supersonic" and I'd rather listen to it than "Big Wave"
I agree 100%Ms Harmless wrote:some turds are an easier shape to shit out than othersgardenparty wrote:fair enough but you are comparing turds to turds hereMs Harmless wrote:yeah, Olé does "fun" and "silly" about a million times better than "Supersonic" and I'd rather listen to it than "Big Wave"
yeah, it is. Mike and Stone are on fire.durdencommatyler wrote:Big Wave is greatVinylGuy wrote:Big Wave is actually a cool song for me.gardenparty wrote:fair enough but you are comparing turds to turds hereMs Harmless wrote:yeah, Olé does "fun" and "silly" about a million times better than "Supersonic" and I'd rather listen to it than "Big Wave"
And that chorus is so fucking catchy! Great hookVinylGuy wrote:yeah, it is. Mike and Stone are on fire.durdencommatyler wrote:Big Wave is greatVinylGuy wrote:Big Wave is actually a cool song for me.gardenparty wrote:fair enough but you are comparing turds to turds hereMs Harmless wrote:yeah, Olé does "fun" and "silly" about a million times better than "Supersonic" and I'd rather listen to it than "Big Wave"
Me too.Kevin Davis wrote:I like "Ole" more than every song on Lightning Bolt.
I love Big Wave.durdencommatyler wrote:Big Wave is greatVinylGuy wrote: Big Wave is actually a cool song for me.
Real Talk: your love of Big Wave is what got me to sit down and listen to (and thus appreciate) it on a new level. I liked it fine at first. But after you championed it, I gave it a more detailed listen and fell in love.Birds in Hell wrote:Me too.Kevin Davis wrote:I like "Ole" more than every song on Lightning Bolt.
I love Big Wave.durdencommatyler wrote:Big Wave is greatVinylGuy wrote: Big Wave is actually a cool song for me.
The first part of the song is meh for me but it does get weird and awesome in the end.durdencommatyler wrote:Real Talk: your love of Big Wave is what got me to sit down and listen to (and thus appreciate) it on a new level. I liked it fine at first. But after you championed it, I gave it a more detailed listen and fell in love.Birds in Hell wrote:Me too.Kevin Davis wrote:I like "Ole" more than every song on Lightning Bolt.
I love Big Wave.durdencommatyler wrote:Big Wave is greatVinylGuy wrote: Big Wave is actually a cool song for me.
That's great!durdencommatyler wrote:Real Talk: your love of Big Wave is what got me to sit down and listen to (and thus appreciate) it on a new level. I liked it fine at first. But after you championed it, I gave it a more detailed listen and fell in love.Birds in Hell wrote:Me too.Kevin Davis wrote:I like "Ole" more than every song on Lightning Bolt.
I love Big Wave.durdencommatyler wrote:Big Wave is greatVinylGuy wrote: Big Wave is actually a cool song for me.
stip wrote:Hate is a strong word but stupid lyrics really knock a song down for me, and Eddie is singing in the register/range that I like the least. And his performance (the combo of those two things)is generally what makes or breaks a song for me
I think there is a certain brand of PJ fan that doesn't like when they go full light-weight. A lot o fans related to the angst and complexity of songs like Alive and Even Flow and Jeremy and Animal and Rearview Mirror. And so when PJ flexes there other muscles they get weird about it. That's not everyone, certainly. But it does reflect some fans.guitar_davey wrote:What is it that people hate so passionately about Ole? I get that these aren't Eddie's deepest lyrics by any stretch, but for a one-off tune, it's pretty fun and has pretty decent production.
I am definitely in that camp you reference. I've gotten better about it over time, but it's there. Part of it is that he often approaches them a certain way vocally that doesn't click for me - not sure which is the chicken and which is the egg.durdencommatyler wrote:I think there is a certain brand of PJ fan that doesn't like when they go full light-weight. A lot o fans related to the angst and complexity of songs like Alive and Even Flow and Jeremy and Animal and Rearview Mirror. And so when PJ flexes there other muscles they get weird about it. That's not everyone, certainly. But it does reflect some fans.guitar_davey wrote:What is it that people hate so passionately about Ole? I get that these aren't Eddie's deepest lyrics by any stretch, but for a one-off tune, it's pretty fun and has pretty decent production.
Songs like Black Red Yellow, Dirty Frank, Hitchhiker, Happy When I'm Crying, Push Me, Pull Me, etc... represent a color of Pearl Jam that I adore. And it's been there from the very beginning. I love that success allowed them to mine that stuff even more over the years. To me, Ole is the heir apparent to that particular line.
It's got funk and groove and a looseness that I think is indicative of what I like most about the band as a live act. But I totally understand why that kind of thing is uninteresting or off-putting or uninteresting to fans that gravitate to other colors of the band's extensive palate.