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Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 3:29 pm
by JuanHamm
What's her deal?

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 3:31 pm
by Strat
She's smart. She's experienced. She is more than capable of running the country.

She just has no star power and i foresee donald trump perhaps wiping the floor with her "personality" wise.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 3:39 pm
by LoathedVermin72
She’s an ineffectual centrist steward of the status quo who fearmongers about M4A. She can get fucked.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 3:46 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
LoathedVermin72 wrote:She’s an ineffectual centrist steward of the status quo who fearmongers about M4A. She can get fucked.
yeah she sure does draw a lot of .flac from both sides

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 3:47 pm
by Strat
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:She’s an ineffectual centrist steward of the status quo who fearmongers about M4A. She can get fucked.
yeah she sure does draw a lot of .flac from both sides
Excellent

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 3:47 pm
by Self
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:She’s an ineffectual centrist steward of the status quo who fearmongers about M4A. She can get fucked.
yeah she sure does draw a lot of .flac from both sides
I came here to make sure this got done. Excellent work, Ruddo.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 3:48 pm
by LoathedVermin72
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:She’s an ineffectual centrist steward of the status quo who fearmongers about M4A. She can get fucked.
yeah she sure does draw a lot of .flac from both sides
I hate puns passionately but I cannot deny how good this was

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 3:49 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 3:52 pm
by Strat
tragabigzanda wrote:She’s also been really abusive to her staff
indeed. Friends of friends who have worked with her here in MN and all the stories are 100% true.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 4:02 pm
by Anders
The Democratic party must have someone better than Sanders? But whoever else is discussed here, most seem so negative.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 4:08 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Anders wrote:The Democratic party must have someone better than Sanders? But whoever else is discussed here, most seem so negative.
He’s the only good candidate though

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 4:10 pm
by Chris_H_2
tragabigzanda wrote:She’s also been really abusive to her staff
oh, like you've never thrown a salad at one of your underlings when he or she didn't get your order 100% to your liking

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 4:12 pm
by Anders
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:The Democratic party must have someone better than Sanders? But whoever else is discussed here, most seem so negative.
He’s the only good candidate though
He will be 79 before the election, and calls himself a democratic socialist.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 4:13 pm
by Chris_H_2
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:The Democratic party must have someone better than Sanders? But whoever else is discussed here, most seem so negative.
He’s the only good candidate though
how "good" can a candidate be when the very ideas and beliefs for which he stands and for which people vote will be watered down or thrown completely out the window after he takes office, thus relegating him to a 78-year-old male version of other centrist, non-"good" candidates? put another way, what separates him from others now simply won't carry day during his presidency.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 4:14 pm
by JuanHamm
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:The Democratic party must have someone better than Sanders? But whoever else is discussed here, most seem so negative.
He’s the only good candidate though
I really don't understand the resistance to him.

The president is not a dictator. Most of the stuff bernie talks about doing either won't happen or will be watered down by congress.

What matters is having someone in the white house who is compassionate and principled, which bernie most definitely is.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 4:16 pm
by Bi_3
Chris_H_2 wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:The Democratic party must have someone better than Sanders? But whoever else is discussed here, most seem so negative.
He’s the only good candidate though
how "good" can a candidate be when the very ideas and beliefs for which he stands and for which people vote will be watered down or thrown completely out the window after he takes office, thus relegating him to a 78-year-old male version of other centrist, non-"good" candidates? put another way, what separates him from others now simply won't carry day during his presidency.

They wont listen because the implementation is counterproductive and doesn't matter.... only the raging against the machine does. They don't want to win, they want to fight.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 4:17 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Anders wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:The Democratic party must have someone better than Sanders? But whoever else is discussed here, most seem so negative.
He’s the only good candidate though
He will be 79 before the election, and calls himself a democratic socialist.
So?

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 4:18 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Chris_H_2 wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:The Democratic party must have someone better than Sanders? But whoever else is discussed here, most seem so negative.
He’s the only good candidate though
how "good" can a candidate be when the very ideas and beliefs for which he stands and for which people vote will be watered down or thrown completely out the window after he takes office, thus relegating him to a 78-year-old male version of other centrist, non-"good" candidates? put another way, what separates him from others now simply won't carry day during his presidency.
So....we should vote for a candidate who won’t even try? I don’t understand what you’re advocating here.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 4:21 pm
by Anders
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Anders wrote:The Democratic party must have someone better than Sanders? But whoever else is discussed here, most seem so negative.
He’s the only good candidate though
He will be 79 before the election, and calls himself a democratic socialist.
So?
That is too old to be a good president. Certanly in the long term.

I would never vote for a socialist. More taxes and government control, less freedom. The US could use further health care reforms, but I do not believe a socialist rule is a good choice.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 4:23 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE