Red Mosquito

VinylGuy wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:my take on King Animal is that it's almost a great album but I hate "Worse Dreams"

Thats a good example of a song that seemed awesome when they released a clip and the whole version was a let down. I dont particulary hate it, but it seems there is a better version of the song they didnt record.

it's not as bad as the worst PJ songs imo, but the lyrics just make me cringe unfortunately and the mix isn't punchy enough for me

Also, for some reason, the production on Earthling doesnt bother me so much. I guess it seemed fitting for what Ed was trying to deliver.

I goddamn love Earthling.

Strat wrote:

oneway23 wrote:Non-facetious question: Why the "Inside Job hate from RM?
Sure, lyrics are a bit slf-help Hallmarky, but, WTF? That bordering on cheese, heart-on-sleeve earnestness has been there pretty much from the onset of the band.

Hey, im all for cheese. I also wear my heart on my sleeve. Its not really that. To me, it comes across as a bit much. LIke someone is having a good vibes only mental breakdown on social media. This also takes into account Ed's vocal delivery which I feel he tries way too hard.

The song also tries to be something like Stairway to Heaven and it just falls flat for me. I dont know. Just never loved it.

no, that's me at approximately 3pm every day; this song isn't as good as that

Strat wrote:

oneway23 wrote:

Strat wrote:

oneway23 wrote:Non-facetious question: Why the "Inside Job hate from RM?
Sure, lyrics are a bit slf-help Hallmarky, but, WTF? That bordering on cheese, heart-on-sleeve earnestness has been there pretty much from the onset of the band.

Hey, im all for cheese. I also wear my heart on my sleeve. Its not really that. To me, it comes across as a bit much. LIke someone is having a good vibes only mental breakdown on social media. This also takes into account Ed's vocal delivery which I feel he tries way too hard.

The song also tries to be something like Stairway to Heaven and it just falls flat for me. I dont know. Just never loved it.

All good...We'll still find a way to make it through, Strat...

How i choose to feel is how i am!

We agree on Rowing, so, I'm confident we'll manage to put this quarrel behind us.

Ms Harmless wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:my take on King Animal is that it's almost a great album but I hate "Worse Dreams"

Thats a good example of a song that seemed awesome when they released a clip and the whole version was a let down. I dont particulary hate it, but it seems there is a better version of the song they didnt record.

it's not as bad as the worst PJ songs imo, but the lyrics just make me cringe unfortunately and the mix isn't punchy enough for me

yeah the mix needed more prominent guitars

Strat wrote:Also, for some reason, the production on Earthling doesnt bother me so much. I guess it seemed fitting for what Ed was trying to deliver.

I goddamn love Earthling.

I love it too

Strat wrote:

Tj wrote:

Got Some wrote:Scared Of Fear (Gossard/Vedder)
React/respond (ament/Vedder)
Wreckage (watt/Vedder)
Dark Matter (Cameron/Vedder)
Won’t Tell (Ament/Vedder)
Upper Hand (Gossard/Vedder)
Waiting For Stevie (Watt/Vedder)
Running (ament/Vedder)
Something Special (klinghoffer/Vedder)
Good To Give (Vedder)
Setting Sun (????)

Purely on the spin article

Mike has no credit! That's not a good sign.

Counterpoint: Inside Job, Retrograde

Counter-counterpoint: Alone, Blood, GtF, Brain of J, Corduroy, Daughter, Tremor Christ...

I really love The Dark and Try (They also happen to be two of the rare girlfriend approved songs from the Eddie Vedder extended universe)

VinylGuy wrote:

Strat wrote:Also, for some reason, the production on Earthling doesnt bother me so much. I guess it seemed fitting for what Ed was trying to deliver.

I goddamn love Earthling.

I love it too

me three, Ed was reinvigorated; I have no problem if some influence carries over and I think "Wreckage" will be better than "Long Way"

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Strat wrote:

Tj wrote:

Got Some wrote:Scared Of Fear (Gossard/Vedder)
React/respond (ament/Vedder)
Wreckage (watt/Vedder)
Dark Matter (Cameron/Vedder)
Won’t Tell (Ament/Vedder)
Upper Hand (Gossard/Vedder)
Waiting For Stevie (Watt/Vedder)
Running (ament/Vedder)
Something Special (klinghoffer/Vedder)
Good To Give (Vedder)
Setting Sun (????)

Purely on the spin article

Mike has no credit! That's not a good sign.

Counterpoint: Inside Job, Retrograde

Counter-counterpoint: Alone, Blood, GtF, Brain of J, Corduroy, Daughter, Tremor Christ...

He wrote gtf and Brain of J off that list. Lol.

And that was 30 years ago!

Mike hasn't written the bangers he once did in recent years.

I like Retrograde

Mike wrote:I really love The Dark and Try (They also happen to be two of the rare girlfriend approved songs from the Eddie Vedder extended universe)

Same; Earthling as a whole didn't have much staying power for me but these two songs in particular I still listen to all the time. Try is the craziest sounding thing on paper, and it completely works.

Ms Harmless wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:

Strat wrote:Also, for some reason, the production on Earthling doesnt bother me so much. I guess it seemed fitting for what Ed was trying to deliver.

I goddamn love Earthling.

I love it too

me three, Ed was reinvigorated; I have no problem if some influence carries over and I think "Wreckage" will be better than "Long Way"

yeah, he sounds awesome.

Strat wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Strat wrote:

Tj wrote:

Got Some wrote:Scared Of Fear (Gossard/Vedder)
React/respond (ament/Vedder)
Wreckage (watt/Vedder)
Dark Matter (Cameron/Vedder)
Won’t Tell (Ament/Vedder)
Upper Hand (Gossard/Vedder)
Waiting For Stevie (Watt/Vedder)
Running (ament/Vedder)
Something Special (klinghoffer/Vedder)
Good To Give (Vedder)
Setting Sun (????)

Purely on the spin article

Mike has no credit! That's not a good sign.

Counterpoint: Inside Job, Retrograde

Counter-counterpoint: Alone, Blood, GtF, Brain of J, Corduroy, Daughter, Tremor Christ...

He wrote gtf and Brain of J off that list. Lol.

And that was 30 years ago!

Mike hasn't written the bangers he once did in recent years.

Nobody has. He wrote Sirens And Mind Your Mannners. The music isn't the weak link in any of his songs.

Also this won't move enough in sales for Watt to get properly paid. I'm guessing it's a different time and getting writing credit is a offset in a way. Something like Wreckage probably finds its way into film etc. Really happy for Watt he got writing credit on a Pearl Jam album good on him.

Birds in Hell wrote:That Stone interview was great, it's always enjoyable to hear him talk about the band and their musical process.

I also found this funny:

We’ve been so fortunate that our fans have been so open to our whims and experimentations, even if sometimes they wish we’d play ‘Jeremy’ and instead we play a B-side not very well (laughs).

This was my favorite part:

All the drifting we’ve done is important. Now, No Code is one of people’s favorite Pearl Jam records, but at the time, a lot of fans felt like, what is this? Where are they going? If we had worked with Andrew on our fourth record and continued to work with him, we might not have gone into some places that we needed to go.

The bolded part seems logical, since Andrew would have been 6 at the time.

I know what he meant, but I had to chuckle a bit.

I think the fact that I've listened to all the clips so far (barring the metal door leak) precludes my membership in the No Leak Club, but I'm thinking I'm going to adopt the club practices as best I can from here on out. The conversation has been fun so far, illuminating at times, but at this point I'm feeling like the idea of just getting the CD like I did in the old days and having it be (mostly) a surprise sounds kinda nice. Maybe even waiting a week or two to react/respond.

If this leak will be first week of april or so right?

Albums don't really leak like they used to. If they leak it's mostly a thing of a few days.

Spoiler: show

Just like middle aged men don't leak like they used to.

It will likely be the second week of April.