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Re: NHL Thread
Posted: Fri June 26, 2015 9:02 pm
by surfndestroy
philpritchard wrote:surfndestroy wrote:numbers wrote:The Bruins got fucking swindled in that trade. Not a good start for Sweeney.
I think they did okay return wise but if they were going to deal a d-man, Chara would have been my choice. I would have dealt him last year if possible.
Are Bruins in a rebuild mode under Sweeney? The d is awfully thin now.
And now Lucic to LA for a 1st/Martin Jones?
Not sure there's any need for Jones. They have Rask and want a cheap backup.
Re: NHL Thread
Posted: Fri June 26, 2015 9:05 pm
by philpritchard
surfndestroy wrote:philpritchard wrote:surfndestroy wrote:numbers wrote:The Bruins got fucking swindled in that trade. Not a good start for Sweeney.
I think they did okay return wise but if they were going to deal a d-man, Chara would have been my choice. I would have dealt him last year if possible.
Are Bruins in a rebuild mode under Sweeney? The d is awfully thin now.
And now Lucic to LA for a 1st/Martin Jones?
Not sure there's any need for Jones. They have Rask and want a cheap backup.
I should have confirmed... that's a trade. A trade that just happened, not one that I made up.
Which makes it even weirder...
Re: NHL Thread
Posted: Fri June 26, 2015 9:22 pm
by surfndestroy
philpritchard wrote:surfndestroy wrote:philpritchard wrote:surfndestroy wrote:numbers wrote:The Bruins got fucking swindled in that trade. Not a good start for Sweeney.
I think they did okay return wise but if they were going to deal a d-man, Chara would have been my choice. I would have dealt him last year if possible.
Are Bruins in a rebuild mode under Sweeney? The d is awfully thin now.
And now Lucic to LA for a 1st/Martin Jones?
Not sure there's any need for Jones. They have Rask and want a cheap backup.
I should have confirmed... that's a trade. A trade that just happened, not one that I made up.
Which makes it even weirder...
How does Sweeney still have a job? Hopefully they can flip Jones for a 3rd rounder. May two of the first rounders for Phoenix's number 3.
Re: NHL Thread
Posted: Fri June 26, 2015 9:55 pm
by numbers
I don't get how Lucic yields such a similar return as Hamilton.
Re: NHL Thread
Posted: Fri June 26, 2015 10:01 pm
by numbers
Sweeney is basically staking his entire career as an executive on the players he drafts today.
Re: NHL Thread
Posted: Fri June 26, 2015 10:25 pm
by shinkdew
numbers wrote:I don't get how Lucic yields such a similar return as Hamilton.
The Bruins are paying almost half of Lucic's salary this year.
Re: NHL Thread
Posted: Fri June 26, 2015 10:32 pm
by elliseamos
I love the fantasy of the Bruins getting McDavid out of all of is.
I would settle for St. Louis on a Brad Richards deal to run with Marchand and Bergeron (they've missed Recchi for a while) and then some other win-now veterans on short money. We all know the window is closing for Chara and the core of this team is a season away from a presidents trophy (don't confuse that statement to be a celebration, we can't all be Indianapolis). That same core also came close to earning their 2nd cup a couple years before that and did win one cup.
Lastly, I like to think the Phil Kessel trade is still looking like the best deal this team's ever made. They have a solid core. And they do develop talent. I look to that trade as a "value" move that we've grown accustomed to with the Pats.
Re: NHL Thread
Posted: Fri June 26, 2015 10:55 pm
by MattA75
elliseamos wrote:I love the fantasy of the Bruins getting McDavid out of all of is.
I would settle for St. Louis on a Brad Richards deal to run with Marchand and Bergeron (they've missed Recchi for a while) and then some other win-now veterans on short money. We all know the window is closing for Chara and the core of this team is a season away from a presidents trophy (don't confuse that statement to be a celebration, we can't all be Indianapolis). That same core also came close to earning their 2nd cup a couple years before that and did win one cup.
Lastly, I like to think the Phil Kessel trade is still looking like the best deal this team's ever made. They have a solid core. And they do develop talent. I look to that trade as a "value" move that we've grown accustomed to with the Pats.
the only move today that made any sense was the Lucic trade (though it made less sense once it came out they were eating money)...if the reports of Hamilton wanting 5.5 million are correct, they're stupid for letting him go
and then they give 2.75 million a year to Adam flippin McQuaid...Kevin Miller must be thrilled, he's the same player as McQuaid, just younger and less injury prone, so what will the Bruins give him? 3.25-3.5 mil a year?
I didn't think it was possible for Sweeney to be as bad of a GM as he was a player, but if today is any indication, yikes
Re: NHL Thread
Posted: Fri June 26, 2015 10:57 pm
by MattA75
surfndestroy wrote:MattA75 wrote:4.75 million a year for Carl Soderbergh from Colorado...let the FA insanity begin

Soderbergh is a great 3rd line center who can fill in on the 2nd line for short stints. Colorado is either overpaying him to be on the 3rd line or going to be very disappointed with him on the 2nd line.
"great" 3rd line center is a little strong...good little player who is very streaky...3 million a year should've been his top end
Re: NHL Thread
Posted: Sat June 27, 2015 1:30 pm
by shinkdew
MattA75 wrote:surfndestroy wrote:MattA75 wrote:4.75 million a year for Carl Soderbergh from Colorado...let the FA insanity begin

Soderbergh is a great 3rd line center who can fill in on the 2nd line for short stints. Colorado is either overpaying him to be on the 3rd line or going to be very disappointed with him on the 2nd line.
"great" 3rd line center is a little strong...good little player who is very streaky...3 million a year should've been his top end
Soderberg will probably put up 50+ points next year. He had 48 and 44 playing with stiffs in a defensive system.
Re: NHL Thread
Posted: Sat June 27, 2015 1:37 pm
by numbers
It took Sweeney a month to decide whether or not to keep Julien, and it took him two hours to set fire to the roster.
Re: NHL Thread
Posted: Sat June 27, 2015 4:43 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
I know nothing about this Russian kid the Stars drafted other than his scouting report I read when they drafted him. Looks like he could be a steal at 12 though. Excited for the future building around Seguin, Benn, and Cody Eakin. Excited about acquiring Antti Niemi. Should be an upgrade at in goal. Need to upgrade the defense.
Re: NHL Thread
Posted: Sat June 27, 2015 6:25 pm
by MattA75
shinkdew wrote:MattA75 wrote:surfndestroy wrote:MattA75 wrote:4.75 million a year for Carl Soderbergh from Colorado...let the FA insanity begin

Soderbergh is a great 3rd line center who can fill in on the 2nd line for short stints. Colorado is either overpaying him to be on the 3rd line or going to be very disappointed with him on the 2nd line.
"great" 3rd line center is a little strong...good little player who is very streaky...3 million a year should've been his top end
Soderberg will probably put up 50+ points next year. He had 48 and 44 playing with stiffs in a defensive system.
he disappeared for long stretches of time...he's a good player but sure as hell is not worth almost 5 million a year
Re: NHL Thread
Posted: Sun June 28, 2015 12:13 am
by scrub12
Soderberg is going to go from playing with Chris Kelly and Loui Eriksson to Gabe Landeskog and Nathan MacKinnon. He'll probably hit 50 points easily.
So glad the O'Reilly drama is over, and Sakic managed to do really well in a tough spot. Zadorov is raw but has massive potential. Grigorenko is a wild card, hopefully Roy can get something out of him. They also cleared 9M in cap space to go after some defensemen on Wednesday. If they pick up Andrej Sekera, then this offseason is a win.
O'Reilly held the organization hostage so many times, and overvalues himself every time a contract comes up. Great player, but the only time he's scored 20 goals is when he played on Matt Duchene's wing and Duchene was feeding him gimme's. He's not an 8M player like it's rumored he wants.
Really happy with drafting Rantanen at 10. Avs needed a big skilled winger to play with Duchene down the line.
Re: NHL Thread
Posted: Sun June 28, 2015 4:06 am
by philpritchard
It was a big couple days for the Leafs, even though they didn't move out any of the big names. They're still moving along the right path, which is more than I can say about how they've operated the last 10-15 years.
Re: NHL Thread
Posted: Mon June 29, 2015 1:35 pm
by philpritchard
Re: NHL Thread
Posted: Mon June 29, 2015 7:36 pm
by southp
When did this turn into the "Boston Bruins thread"? Yeah they will now suck for a few more years, let's move on!
In all seriousness, I get the feeling they were stockpiling those 1st rounders in order to move up to #3 - which they would've used for home-grown defenseman Noah Hanifen. He would've looked great in a Bruins uniform for 15 years, but they couldn't strike a deal and Hanifen fell to the Hurricanes at #5. Instead, Hamilton will spend the next 10 years as a top-2 D in Calgary and the Bruins grabbed another D (Zboril) with their first pick.
Re: NHL Thread
Posted: Mon June 29, 2015 8:42 pm
by southp
More Bruins news.... they traded a 2017 pick for Zac Rinaldo.
Nothing worse than a player who's been on Philly and Boston. Hello Kenny Linseman.
Re: NHL Thread
Posted: Mon June 29, 2015 9:06 pm
by philpritchard
southp wrote:More Bruins news.... they traded a 2017 pick for Zac Rinaldo.
Nothing worse than a player who's been on Philly and Boston. Hello Kenny Linseman.
A THIRD rounder for Rinaldo? If I were a Bruins fan, I would be terrified at the direction Sweeney is taking this team.
Re: NHL Thread
Posted: Mon June 29, 2015 9:38 pm
by numbers
I honestly don't even think it's real. It is legitimately looking like Sweeney is sabatoging the franchise.