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Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun April 10, 2016 2:29 pm
by LoathedVermin72
I was being facetious, of course. But comments like this really do seem awful to me:
Bammer wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Bammer wrote:I could give a shit what any given candidate thinks about abortion, transgender bathrooms, or their recollection of Nancy Regan's stance on AIDS research...none of that impacts me.
This is pretty selfish.
Those issues fall so far below taxes and national security (in my opinion) they're not even worth presidential candidates discussing during election campaigns. Aren't these issues handled at the state level anyway? Look at this new law in NC right now. You think Obama supports it?
I mean, really? You don't think they're worth discussing because they don't directly affect you as a cis, straight, white male? Come on. There are other people besides you. A woman's right to safe, affordable, accessible healthcare seems like something that needs to be discussed. A transgender or gay person's right to dignity and safety seems like something that needs to be discussed. As a society, our governmental needs and issues extend far, far beyond simply how much we pay in taxes and how "secure" we are as a nation. I understand voting for your own interests. But I would hope that the well-being of your fellow citizens would one of your interests. Society can't function without empathy.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun April 10, 2016 2:42 pm
by Bammer
If I agreed with a particular candidate's platform on taxes, security, education, health care, and energy...I would vote for them and I would not consider their stance on a social issue that doesn't affect me, even if I disagreed with them on it 100%.

You're telling me you would hinge your vote in the situation described above on the social issue?

Back to my original story, my neighbor was starting to talk about chromosomes and all this...I was just like bro I don't care. If Bruce Jenner wants to chop his dick off, fine. Have at it.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun April 10, 2016 2:44 pm
by Bammer
I was also referencing Hillary Clinton getting lambasted for misinterpreting Nancy Regan's stance on AIDS. In the grand scheme does that really matter?

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun April 10, 2016 2:44 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Bammer wrote:If I agreed with a particular candidate's platform on taxes, security, education, health care, and energy...I would vote for them and I would not consider their stance on a social issue that doesn't affect me, even if I disagreed with them on it 100%.

You're telling me you would hinge your vote in the situation described above on the social issue?

Back to my original story, my neighbor was starting to talk about chromosomes and all this...I was just like bro I don't care. If Bruce Jenner wants to chop his dick off, fine. Have at it.
Yes, absolutely. Certain social issues are pass/fail for me. If you're anti-abortion, I don't give a shit what your economic policies are. The thought of women's rights being stripped away scares me a hell of a lot more than paying higher taxes.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun April 10, 2016 2:44 pm
by Bammer
God I hate politics.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun April 10, 2016 3:20 pm
by Bammer
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Bammer wrote:If I agreed with a particular candidate's platform on taxes, security, education, health care, and energy...I would vote for them and I would not consider their stance on a social issue that doesn't affect me, even if I disagreed with them on it 100%.

You're telling me you would hinge your vote in the situation described above on the social issue?

Back to my original story, my neighbor was starting to talk about chromosomes and all this...I was just like bro I don't care. If Bruce Jenner wants to chop his dick off, fine. Have at it.
Yes, absolutely. Certain social issues are pass/fail for me. If you're anti-abortion, I don't give a shit what your economic policies are. The thought of women's rights being stripped away scares me a hell of a lot more than paying higher taxes.
The beauty part is: You're entitled to your own opinion.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun April 10, 2016 3:24 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Bammer wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Bammer wrote:If I agreed with a particular candidate's platform on taxes, security, education, health care, and energy...I would vote for them and I would not consider their stance on a social issue that doesn't affect me, even if I disagreed with them on it 100%.

You're telling me you would hinge your vote in the situation described above on the social issue?

Back to my original story, my neighbor was starting to talk about chromosomes and all this...I was just like bro I don't care. If Bruce Jenner wants to chop his dick off, fine. Have at it.
Yes, absolutely. Certain social issues are pass/fail for me. If you're anti-abortion, I don't give a shit what your economic policies are. The thought of women's rights being stripped away scares me a hell of a lot more than paying higher taxes.
The beauty part is: You're entitled to your own opinion.
:|

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun April 10, 2016 7:12 pm
by Mine
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Bammer wrote:If I agreed with a particular candidate's platform on taxes, security, education, health care, and energy...I would vote for them and I would not consider their stance on a social issue that doesn't affect me, even if I disagreed with them on it 100%.

You're telling me you would hinge your vote in the situation described above on the social issue?

Back to my original story, my neighbor was starting to talk about chromosomes and all this...I was just like bro I don't care. If Bruce Jenner wants to chop his dick off, fine. Have at it.
Yes, absolutely. Certain social issues are pass/fail for me. If you're anti-abortion, I don't give a shit what your economic policies are. The thought of women's rights being stripped away scares me a hell of a lot more than paying higher taxes.
The 2 sets of issues aren't really independent from each other.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun April 10, 2016 7:44 pm
by BurtReynolds
Rank the issues.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun April 10, 2016 10:32 pm
by Bammer
BurtReynolds wrote:Rank the issues.
:bammer:

And shame on me for being someone who votes with personal interests in mind.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun April 10, 2016 10:34 pm
by LoathedVermin72
This is why everyone hates white dudes

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Mon April 11, 2016 12:09 am
by B
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Re: Election 2016

Posted: Mon April 11, 2016 2:01 am
by Bammer
Please post a list of the things which would be good for the country that no members of said country would disagree with. I'll vote for the good of the country accordingly.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Mon April 11, 2016 2:05 am
by LoathedVermin72
Yes, empathy and ethical convictions need to be dictated by others. That's what I'm saying.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Mon April 11, 2016 2:13 am
by E.H. Ruddock
Bammer wrote:If I agreed with a particular candidate's platform on taxes, security, education, health care, and energy...I would vote for them and I would not consider their stance on a social issue that doesn't affect me, even if I disagreed with them on it 100%.

You're telling me you would hinge your vote in the situation described above on the social issue?

Back to my original story, my neighbor was starting to talk about chromosomes and all this...I was just like bro I don't care. If Bruce Jenner wants to chop his dick off, fine. Have at it.
I've tried to make this exact argument here before, bammer. Good luck to you because I had no success

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Mon April 11, 2016 4:04 am
by Bammer
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Bammer wrote:If I agreed with a particular candidate's platform on taxes, security, education, health care, and energy...I would vote for them and I would not consider their stance on a social issue that doesn't affect me, even if I disagreed with them on it 100%.

You're telling me you would hinge your vote in the situation described above on the social issue?

Back to my original story, my neighbor was starting to talk about chromosomes and all this...I was just like bro I don't care. If Bruce Jenner wants to chop his dick off, fine. Have at it.
I've tried to make this exact argument here before, bammer. Good luck to you because I had no success
Oh, I know I'll never win anything - too many people here blinded by their brocism to apply critical thought.

But I appreciate your support :thumbsup:

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Mon April 11, 2016 4:07 am
by LoathedVermin72
Go fuck yourself

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Mon April 11, 2016 4:11 am
by Bammer
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Go fuck yourself
You sound like a Trump rally attendee

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Mon April 11, 2016 4:13 am
by LoathedVermin72
Bammer wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Go fuck yourself
You sound like a Trump rally attendee
Maybe you should apply a little critical thought to your own posts

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Mon April 11, 2016 4:19 am
by Bammer
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Bammer wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Go fuck yourself
You sound like a Trump rally attendee
Maybe you should apply a little critical thought to your own posts
Meh