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Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Wed October 11, 2023 1:38 pm
by Jaeti
VinylGuy wrote:I would like to remember how awful the production and the mix is in this album. The lack of different and interesting guitar tones and the horrible sound of the drums.
No one seems to be as (relatively) positive about Swallowed Whole as I am these days, but the guitar tones there stand out for me from other stuff on the album.
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Wed October 11, 2023 1:42 pm
by stip
I think the challenge is that those tones need to be reaching out into wide spaces they can't quite fill, to capture the expansiveness of the song's intent, and it's not there.
This is maybe the only Pearl Jam album that I think sounds worse on headphones. When I listen on speakers the sound has a place to go.
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Wed October 11, 2023 1:47 pm
by McParadigm
stip wrote:This is maybe the only Pearl Jam album that I think sounds worse on headphones. When I listen on speakers the sound has a place to go.
That’s a good description of the difference
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Wed October 11, 2023 1:51 pm
by VinylGuy
Jaeti wrote:VinylGuy wrote:I would like to remember how awful the production and the mix is in this album. The lack of different and interesting guitar tones and the horrible sound of the drums.
No one seems to be as (relatively) positive about Swallowed Whole as I am these days, but the guitar tones there stand out for me from other stuff on the album.
I do not like that song no. I hate the mix. I hate the acoustic guitar tone at the beginning. It could have been a great mix between Ed´s more Into The Wild style and Pearl Jam, and its not.
I blame mostly Brendan.
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Wed October 11, 2023 1:53 pm
by igotworms
VinylGuy wrote:Jaeti wrote:VinylGuy wrote:I would like to remember how awful the production and the mix is in this album. The lack of different and interesting guitar tones and the horrible sound of the drums.
No one seems to be as (relatively) positive about Swallowed Whole as I am these days, but the guitar tones there stand out for me from other stuff on the album.
I do not like that song no. I hate the mix. I hate the acoustic guitar tone at the beginning. It could have been a great mix between Ed´s more Into The Wild style and Pearl Jam, and its not.
I blame mostly Brendan.
I mostly like that song, even the production doesn't turn me off. But the chorus just doesn't work for me - the rest of it is soaring and then it has a weirdly understated chorus.
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Wed October 11, 2023 2:36 pm
by guitar_davey
Jaeti wrote:VinylGuy wrote:I would like to remember how awful the production and the mix is in this album. The lack of different and interesting guitar tones and the horrible sound of the drums.
No one seems to be as (relatively) positive about Swallowed Whole as I am these days, but the guitar tones there stand out for me from other stuff on the album.
Production aside, this might be my favourite song on LB.
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Wed October 11, 2023 2:40 pm
by stip
igotworms wrote:VinylGuy wrote:Jaeti wrote:VinylGuy wrote:I would like to remember how awful the production and the mix is in this album. The lack of different and interesting guitar tones and the horrible sound of the drums.
No one seems to be as (relatively) positive about Swallowed Whole as I am these days, but the guitar tones there stand out for me from other stuff on the album.
I do not like that song no. I hate the mix. I hate the acoustic guitar tone at the beginning. It could have been a great mix between Ed´s more Into The Wild style and Pearl Jam, and its not.
I blame mostly Brendan.
I mostly like that song, even the production doesn't turn me off. But the chorus just doesn't work for me - the rest of it is soaring and then it has a weirdly understated chorus.
i actually like that contrast a lot. the more whispered chorus and outro are my favorite parts, especially the inversion. how many of their songs have a loud to quiet dynamic like that?
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Wed October 11, 2023 5:08 pm
by Jaeti
Guess I'll actually listen to this thing today.
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Wed October 11, 2023 10:02 pm
by Ms Harmless
stip wrote:igotworms wrote:VinylGuy wrote:Jaeti wrote:VinylGuy wrote:I would like to remember how awful the production and the mix is in this album. The lack of different and interesting guitar tones and the horrible sound of the drums.
No one seems to be as (relatively) positive about Swallowed Whole as I am these days, but the guitar tones there stand out for me from other stuff on the album.
I do not like that song no. I hate the mix. I hate the acoustic guitar tone at the beginning. It could have been a great mix between Ed´s more Into The Wild style and Pearl Jam, and its not.
I blame mostly Brendan.
I mostly like that song, even the production doesn't turn me off. But the chorus just doesn't work for me - the rest of it is soaring and then it has a weirdly understated chorus.
i actually like that contrast a lot. the more whispered chorus and outro are my favorite parts, especially the inversion. how many of their songs have a loud to quiet dynamic like that?
the bridge of SW is pretty fantastic, the way the chords climb up into the next verse like that
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Thu October 12, 2023 2:48 pm
by Leatherhead
I have to listen to this album alone because I wouldn't want somebody there thinking I'm enjoying it.
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Thu October 12, 2023 2:51 pm
by VinylGuy
Leatherhead wrote:I have to listen to this album alone because I wouldn't want somebody there thinking I'm enjoying it.

Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Thu October 12, 2023 2:51 pm
by VinylGuy
I might, just might, listen to the vinyl this weekend.
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Fri October 13, 2023 4:50 pm
by Farmer John
This turd is now available in Dolby Atmos surround sound for anyone with Apple Music.
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Fri October 13, 2023 4:55 pm
by dad
oh good.
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Sat October 14, 2023 1:44 am
by Farmer John
I only sampled a couple songs, but it actually sounds pretty great. I love Dolby Atmos.
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Mon October 16, 2023 10:13 am
by lecherouslittlestump
This is a pretty big remix, like ST a few years ago. I'm hearing things I never heard before. The new mix has propelled this album into my top 3 (it was previously my most hated Pearl Jim album)
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Mon October 16, 2023 10:38 am
by michaeldarren79
Has anyone ever picked up on the audio glitch on Swallowed Whole? (cd release)
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Mon October 16, 2023 3:16 pm
by Leatherhead
Eddie sounds pretty awful on most of this album.
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Mon October 16, 2023 3:23 pm
by stip
what albums have atmos mixes at this point?
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Mon October 16, 2023 3:41 pm
by Farmer John
stip wrote:what albums have atmos mixes at this point?
As far as I can tell: Lightning Bolt, Yield, No Code, Ten.
Yield is the only other one I've listened to, and it sounded fantastic.