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stip wrote:my goal is to be 20 years ahead of the RM reappraisal

I don't think we're all going to start hating Binaural any time soon, boo

Binaural was universally hated back then

Exacatly

and riot act

VinylGuy wrote:Binaural was universally hated back then

do we have access to posts from back then? I honestly cannot remember when all this start... but I vaguely recall it was around riot act.

by the time backspacer came out self-hatred was fully ensconced in our dna

I've definitely come around on Binaural. But Riot Act has always been top 2 for me.

Bi_3 wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:Binaural was universally hated back then

do we have access to posts from back then? I honestly cannot remember when all this start... but I vaguely recall it was around riot act.

no - that was two boards ago

stip wrote:and riot act

still hated. Sorry, I'd take backspacer over that turd

My memory is that IRL, PJ fans talked about Binaural as a dud... "the worst PJ record but still better than most other artist's albums!" But here on RM it was fairly lauded. As far as Riot Act goes, again my memory, is that it was universally bemoaned on RM and IRL.

Bi_3 wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:Binaural was universally hated back then

do we have access to posts from back then? I honestly cannot remember when all this start... but I vaguely recall it was around riot act.

of course no, and im not talking just RM, but pretty much PJ fanbase was really confused with Binaural.

epilogue wrote:My memory is that IRL, PJ fans talked about Binaural as a dud... "the worst PJ record but still better than most other artist's albums!" But here on RM it was fairly lauded. As far as Riot Act goes, again my memory, is that it was universally bemoaned on RM and IRL.

Not I my RL! I loved Riot Act from day one and it's only gotten better with age.

Some other PJ albums that I now love (No Code and Binaural especially) took some learnin', but Riot Act really spoke to me right out of the gate. Love that album so much.

Kevin Davis wrote:

epilogue wrote:My memory is that IRL, PJ fans talked about Binaural as a dud... "the worst PJ record but still better than most other artist's albums!" But here on RM it was fairly lauded. As far as Riot Act goes, again my memory, is that it was universally bemoaned on RM and IRL.

Not I my RL! I loved Riot Act from day one and it's only gotten better with age.

Some other PJ albums that I now love (No Code and Binaural especially) took some learnin', but Riot Act really spoke to me right out of the gate. Love that album so much.

If memory serves, this was the first thing you and I really bonded over.

With the exception of Gigaton, I think all of the PJ albums whose releases I recall were met with some level disappointment by my fan circles at the time. Even Vitalogy, which was the newest album when I became a fan, was looked upon by everyone I knew at the time as clearly the worst of the three.

epilogue wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:

epilogue wrote:My memory is that IRL, PJ fans talked about Binaural as a dud... "the worst PJ record but still better than most other artist's albums!" But here on RM it was fairly lauded. As far as Riot Act goes, again my memory, is that it was universally bemoaned on RM and IRL.

Not I my RL! I loved Riot Act from day one and it's only gotten better with age.

Some other PJ albums that I now love (No Code and Binaural especially) took some learnin', but Riot Act really spoke to me right out of the gate. Love that album so much.

If memory serves, this was the first thing you and I really bonded over.

And I am happy to continue to bond over it with you, friend

Kevin Davis wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:

epilogue wrote:My memory is that IRL, PJ fans talked about Binaural as a dud... "the worst PJ record but still better than most other artist's albums!" But here on RM it was fairly lauded. As far as Riot Act goes, again my memory, is that it was universally bemoaned on RM and IRL.

Not I my RL! I loved Riot Act from day one and it's only gotten better with age.

Some other PJ albums that I now love (No Code and Binaural especially) took some learnin', but Riot Act really spoke to me right out of the gate. Love that album so much.

If memory serves, this was the first thing you and I really bonded over.

And I am happy to continue to bond over it with you, friend

1000% same

yeah, i remember that! Vitalogy was like wtf guys why so hardcore? And a lot of fans really hated BetterMan back in the day. I would say Yield was a beloved released from all sides from day 1.

Kevin Davis wrote:With the exception of Gigaton, I think all of the PJ albums whose releases I recall were met with some level disappointment by my fan circles at the time. Even Vitalogy, which was the newest album when I became a fan, was looked upon by everyone I knew at the time as clearly the worst of the three.

My circles adored Vs. Vitalogy was definitely met with some resistance. No Code was largely dismissed. Yield was the big exception, though. And to a lesser extent, S/T.

But otherwise, yeah, my experience is largely the same.