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Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 11:16 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:epilogue wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:epilogue wrote:Leatherhead wrote:Being named Lightning Bolt, I expected this album to rock hard.
Wasn't this also the reason Riot Act "sucked" when it came out?
It seemed to me that because the album was lacking in any of the experimental hallmarks of the last couple albums, and fronted by Ed's beleaguered vocals, it somehow felt phoned in. Obviously that's not been the case for a while. But I remember more than one person saying to me something like "How long did this album take them, a week?"
I just remember so many people expecting it to RAWK simply because it was called Riot Act. And when it wasn't a full on thrasher, folks felt mislead and disappointed.
the first song was mid-tempo and featured an acoustic guitar and organ. Expectations IMMEDIATELY subverted!

Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 11:50 pm
by VinylGuy
VinylGuy wrote:I might open a bottle of wine and listen to this one on vinyl
it didnt happened. Instead i listened to RNDM´s first album. Damn, what a great record i proudly own on vinyl. I forgot Brett Eliason recorded it and mixed it.
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 11:54 pm
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:VinylGuy wrote:I might open a bottle of wine and listen to this one on vinyl
it didnt happened. Instead i listened to RNDM´s first album. Damn, what a great record i proudly own on vinyl. I forgot Brett Eliason recorded it and mixed it.
I met a woman at a wedding last year who used to date Joseph Arthur.... it was really funny. She had some great stories. But she was blown away that I knew who he was.

Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Fri November 03, 2023 11:59 pm
by Birds in Hell
epilogue wrote:VinylGuy wrote:VinylGuy wrote:I might open a bottle of wine and listen to this one on vinyl
it didnt happened. Instead i listened to RNDM´s first album. Damn, what a great record i proudly own on vinyl. I forgot Brett Eliason recorded it and mixed it.
I met a woman at a wedding last year who used to date Joseph Arthur.... it was really funny. She had some great stories. But she was blown away that I knew who he was.

Did she date him before or after he completely lost his mind?
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Sat November 04, 2023 2:00 am
by VinylGuy
Birds in Hell wrote:epilogue wrote:VinylGuy wrote:VinylGuy wrote:I might open a bottle of wine and listen to this one on vinyl
it didnt happened. Instead i listened to RNDM´s first album. Damn, what a great record i proudly own on vinyl. I forgot Brett Eliason recorded it and mixed it.
I met a woman at a wedding last year who used to date Joseph Arthur.... it was really funny. She had some great stories. But she was blown away that I knew who he was.

Did she date him before or after he completely lost his mind?
I think the guy had a few meltdowns but yeah covid really fucked him up badly, and not because he had it, but because he became one of those paranoid losers.
Stuverud made a long post on fbook at the time saying he couldnt believe what he was saying.
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Sat November 04, 2023 7:09 pm
by epilogue
Birds in Hell wrote:epilogue wrote:VinylGuy wrote:VinylGuy wrote:I might open a bottle of wine and listen to this one on vinyl
it didnt happened. Instead i listened to RNDM´s first album. Damn, what a great record i proudly own on vinyl. I forgot Brett Eliason recorded it and mixed it.
I met a woman at a wedding last year who used to date Joseph Arthur.... it was really funny. She had some great stories. But she was blown away that I knew who he was.

Did she date him before or after he completely lost his mind?
Ha!
Way before. But I did ask her about him losing his mind.
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Sat November 04, 2023 7:10 pm
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:epilogue wrote:VinylGuy wrote:VinylGuy wrote:I might open a bottle of wine and listen to this one on vinyl
it didnt happened. Instead i listened to RNDM´s first album. Damn, what a great record i proudly own on vinyl. I forgot Brett Eliason recorded it and mixed it.
I met a woman at a wedding last year who used to date Joseph Arthur.... it was really funny. She had some great stories. But she was blown away that I knew who he was.

Did she date him before or after he completely lost his mind?
I think the guy had a few meltdowns but yeah covid really fucked him up badly, and not because he had it, but because he became one of those paranoid losers.
Stuverud made a long post on fbook at the time saying he couldnt believe what he was saying.
I'm not sure we can blame abusing young women on Covid
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Sat November 04, 2023 7:33 pm
by Jorge
Verb used to be a big fan of that guy
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Sat November 04, 2023 8:54 pm
by VinylGuy
Jorge wrote:Verb used to be a big fan of that guy
because of his music i presume
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Thu November 09, 2023 9:42 pm
by Vitalogist
I remember when LB came out I really liked it, but it might be the al I
album that aged the most poorly for me. I never care for most of these songs live
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Thu November 09, 2023 9:51 pm
by stip
a problem with shorter tours and a deep catalog is songs dont get the chance to develop live or build a following - i hope they dont give up on retrograde which will someday be what eddie wants if it has the chance
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Mon January 29, 2024 12:36 pm
by Got Some
The other thing that hurt LB apart from the production/mix was the MLB leak.
By the time the album came out I had heard
Getaway(MLB leak)
MYM (single)
Sirens (single)
LB (live/MLB leak)
Swallowed Hole (MLB leak)
LTRP (MLB leak)
SBM (Ed’s solo version)
Future Days (live)
So when I Finally got to the album I was hearing 4 songs for the first time. Along with superior recordings to the songs above.
When I heard Gigaton for the first time I had heard DOTC and SBWM plus the live version of River Cross.
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Mon January 29, 2024 7:27 pm
by Ms Harmless
yeah the first listen to Gigaton did hit different
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Mon January 29, 2024 8:10 pm
by stip
Now granted I love Lightning Bolt, but I liked having a number of the songs in previous rotation earlier. They got a refresh with the better sound quality, and it helped me contextualize and unpack the new songs sooner. I feel like everything got more time to marinate this way, even if it was at the expense of the newness of the overall album
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Tue January 30, 2024 4:21 pm
by lecherouslittlestump
Got Some wrote:The other thing that hurt LB apart from the production/mix was the MLB leak.
By the time the album came out I had heard
Getaway(MLB leak)
MYM (single)
Sirens (single)
LB (live/MLB leak)
Swallowed Hole (MLB leak)
LTRP (MLB leak)
SBM (Ed’s solo version)
Future Days (live)
So when I Finally got to the album I was hearing 4 songs for the first time. Along with superior recordings to the songs above.
When I heard Gigaton for the first time I had heard DOTC and SBWM plus the live version of River Cross.
You've just reminded me that I joined some random Phish forum in 2013 to convince the dude to leak those MLB tracks
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Wed January 31, 2024 2:46 am
by Leatherhead
On pearljam.com, Lightning Bolt ends with Yellow Moon.
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Wed January 31, 2024 4:09 am
by Hypnos
I dont believe Ive had posted this one here yet:
LB remixed with the help of AI
https://mega.nz/file/GIdw3ISK#6nuckVMZ8 ... z2xb81-LE0
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Wed January 31, 2024 2:23 pm
by Vitalogist
No matter how much I try, I just can’t fully get on board with LB. It's both the production and the song-writing that spoil it for me. It might be at the bottom of my list
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Mon February 26, 2024 9:46 pm
by Ms Harmless
I listened to this album just now and had a fun time with it
I enjoyed everything until MFS; it's one of the most lyrically clumsy PJ songs there is (yeah, more than Getaway or MYM, both of which I enjoy to some degree)
LTRP didn't offend me; I don't love the chorus, but I like everything around it (especially the bridge and solo)
basically the same thoughts about Infallible, overproduced though it is; it has that Matt groove I like
I still really enjoy Swallowed Whole a lot; it's like a Counting Crows song
Pendulum is nice and doesn't belong here; Jeff knew this, bless his soul
I think SBM is a really nice cover of Ed and the Pearl Jams, the vocal glitch on "disaster" makes me LOL every time
my only issue with Future Days is the piano; it's a nice song otherwise, especially the bridge again (I think there's another glitch on "closer"); I have a real fondness for songs that sound like church songs but aren't (see Getaway, too, as well as the bridge of Swallowed... very churchy)
Re: Lightning Bolt: the official album thread
Posted: Fri March 01, 2024 8:18 am
by taffer