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Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu December 30, 2021 12:00 am
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:Guys your Manhunter takes are horrible. It’s a masterpiece.
A master piece of shit, yeah

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu December 30, 2021 12:08 am
by Mickey
tragabigzanda wrote:Guys your Manhunter takes are horrible. It’s a masterpiece.
Yeah but look where they're coming from.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu December 30, 2021 12:52 am
by bart
I like Manhunter but I always laugh at the part where he’s talking to himself while sitting in the tree

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu December 30, 2021 1:44 am
by VinylGuy
Manhunter is glorious. It might be just too much for a lot of people. Red Dragon is so bland and safe it hurts. Havent seen Hannibal Rising nor i ever will.

Hannibal is pretty cool.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu December 30, 2021 1:44 am
by VinylGuy
Mickey wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Yeah i agree with Scott but i still want to know what you read
Just a ton of folks being like "why do they show the rape twice when it's literally the same scene." :roll:
omg

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu December 30, 2021 4:04 am
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:Manhunter is glorious. It might be just too much for a lot of people. Red Dragon is so bland and safe it hurts. Havent seen Hannibal Rising nor i ever will.

Hannibal is pretty cool.
Too much terrible acting, yeah.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu December 30, 2021 5:01 am
by Mickey
Benedetta

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu December 30, 2021 5:46 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu December 30, 2021 5:47 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu December 30, 2021 6:21 am
by Mickey
tragabigzanda wrote:
Mickey wrote:Benedetta
How was this?
If you like Verhoeven you'll like this and if you don't, I suspect you won't. Not one of his best, I don't think, but I had a really good time.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu December 30, 2021 8:28 am
by Anders
Moulin Rouge

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu December 30, 2021 11:42 am
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:
epilogue wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Manhunter is glorious. It might be just too much for a lot of people. Red Dragon is so bland and safe it hurts. Havent seen Hannibal Rising nor i ever will.

Hannibal is pretty cool.
Too much terrible acting, yeah.
Petersen is the obvious candidate; I personally love him in this but I get it. But Farina and Cox are terrific.
Can't argue there.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu December 30, 2021 1:16 pm
by VinylGuy
tragabigzanda wrote:
epilogue wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Manhunter is glorious. It might be just too much for a lot of people. Red Dragon is so bland and safe it hurts. Havent seen Hannibal Rising nor i ever will.

Hannibal is pretty cool.
Too much terrible acting, yeah.
Petersen is the obvious candidate; I personally love him in this but I get it. But Farina and Cox are terrific.
Petersen is good too, i like his approach for Graham.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu December 30, 2021 5:19 pm
by epilogue
I've said before that I like to go overboard with my hatred of Manhunter. There are things about the movie that work and things that don't. It's not for me and for some reason I enjoy ripping it apart. But one thing I'll never bend on is how utterly terrible Peterson is. Such an awful actor.

The rest of the movie is actually fine but I'll continue to harbor an irrational hatred of it and happily call it utter dogshit whenever I can.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu December 30, 2021 5:44 pm
by Mickey
epilogue wrote:I've said before that I like to go overboard with my hatred of Manhunter. There are things about the movie that work and things that don't. It's not for me and for some reason I enjoy ripping it apart.
Why do you think that is?

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu December 30, 2021 6:06 pm
by VinylGuy
You can do whatever you want joe and thats fine but the thing with opinions is that we all remember them

So if you call the female ghostbusters a film that matters and manhunter a piece of shit...well, we know then which one is the good one.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu December 30, 2021 6:15 pm
by Mickey
In other words:
Mickey wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Guys your Manhunter takes are horrible. It’s a masterpiece.
Yeah but look where they're coming from.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu December 30, 2021 6:30 pm
by epilogue
Mickey wrote:
epilogue wrote:I've said before that I like to go overboard with my hatred of Manhunter. There are things about the movie that work and things that don't. It's not for me and for some reason I enjoy ripping it apart.
Why do you think that is?
I'm not one for tearing things down. I usually prefer to focus on stuff I do like and interact with the story as presented. I think with Manhunter specifically it's that I genuinely find Peterson's acting offensive in that movie. As such it's an easy target to lean into and indulge my darker critical side.

On top of that, my friend Matt (with whom I have a healthy, brotherly competitive relationship) really likes the movie and kind of demanded that I like it, too. When I didn't he got pissy about it and so giving that movie shit is funny to me on that level.

I'm not a big Michael Mann fan, in general. I know LV loves him and Manhunter specifically. I think fondly on our good natured back-and-forth about it. And I miss LV. Leaning into an absurd and heightened "hatred" for Manhunter reminds me of the fun I used to have with LV, so in a way, I feel kind of connected to him.

All of it is good natured on my end. Something I find funny. A small, petty indulgence which is out of character and not something I often allow myself to lean into. But for the above reasons, this one is fun to lean into.

That's way I think that is.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu December 30, 2021 6:32 pm
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:You can do whatever you want joe and thats fine but the thing with opinions is that we all remember them

So if you call the female ghostbusters a film that matters and manhunter a piece of shit...well, we know then which one is the good one.
Both movies are subpar movies on their own terms. Ghostbusters is meaningful for cultural reasons. Manhunter is not. Manhunter might be the better of the two movies but that's not at all what I'm talking about when I talk about the relevance of Ghostbusters -- or "how it matters."

Which in and of itself is a bit out of context and an oversimplification of my initial thoughts about that movie.

But whatever. Like what you like, my man. I won't hold it against you.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu December 30, 2021 6:33 pm
by Mickey
I do not think female Ghostbusters is meaningful. A blip in the culture war. I'd already forgotten about it.