Red Mosquito

Posted: **Mon November 30, 2020 8:37 pm**

VinylGuy wrote:
wease wrote:I’m not so sure Luke is such a well known entity throughout the galaxy at this point. It’s only 5 years after Vader and the Emperor died. Sure, Ahsoka is probably aware of him in the sense that she keeps tabs on all Jedi-related stuff, but it’s not like he’s a galaxy wide celebrity during this time. Most people probably still think the Jedi are some kind of fantasy beings like unicorns.
Also agree yeah. The galaxy is so fucking huge, its going to take years. Besides we dont really know what they said about it...in TFA it seems everything that happened with Luke is sort of a mythos/legend.

Interesting point. In one of the books (think it was Bloodline? Someone please correct me), they specifically talked about the fact that the crumbling empire ran a propaganda/disinformation campaign, to the point where they insisted, for a time, that the Emperor had not, in fact, fallen, and that things were fine.

It's entirely possible that there are far corners of the galaxy which would not only be unaware of the finer details of what went down, but, wouldn't even know that the empire had fallen.

Posted: **Mon November 30, 2020 8:54 pm**

wease wrote:I’m not so sure Luke is such a well known entity throughout the galaxy at this point. It’s only 5 years after Vader and the Emperor died. Sure, Ahsoka is probably aware of him in the sense that she keeps tabs on all Jedi-related stuff, but it’s not like he’s a galaxy wide celebrity during this time. Most people probably still think the Jedi are some kind of fantasy beings like unicorns.

I don’t remember the specifics but he and leia are known galaxy side at this point. Bloodline. Has leia as a prominent leader of the republic and she gets outed as Vader’s daughter. And Luke. There’s a furore and she leaves forming the resistance as she’s aware the first order are forming and political factions within the senate are working to bring the empire back.
Young Ben learns about This over the News/holonet and is devastated as he was never told and off he goes to the damage races.
It why han left too. Couldn’t deal with the glare.
Luke is definitely a known quantity galaxy wide at this stage.

** and remember they showed us in Mando the second Death Star Exploding. They have news. And a galaxy wide internet.

Posted: **Mon November 30, 2020 9:10 pm**

dimejinky99 wrote:
wease wrote:I’m not so sure Luke is such a well known entity throughout the galaxy at this point. It’s only 5 years after Vader and the Emperor died. Sure, Ahsoka is probably aware of him in the sense that she keeps tabs on all Jedi-related stuff, but it’s not like he’s a galaxy wide celebrity during this time. Most people probably still think the Jedi are some kind of fantasy beings like unicorns.

I don’t remember the specifics but he and leia are known galaxy side at this point. Bloodline. Has leia as a prominent leader of the republic and she gets outed as Vader’s daughter. And Luke. There’s a furore and she leaves forming the resistance as she’s aware the first order are forming and political factions within the senate are working to bring the empire back.
Young Ben learns about This over the News/holonet and is devastated as he was never told and off he goes to the damage races.
It why han left too. Couldn’t deal with the glare.
Luke is definitely a known quantity galaxy wide at this stage.

?

** and remember they showed us in Mando the second Death Star Exploding. They have news. And a galaxy wide internet.

Thanks for the Bloodline refresher, dime. Been a while.
Did I imagine the bit about the empire claiming Sheev was alive & well after the fact, or was that a different book altogether?

Posted: **Mon November 30, 2020 10:12 pm**

oneway23 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
wease wrote:I’m not so sure Luke is such a well known entity throughout the galaxy at this point. It’s only 5 years after Vader and the Emperor died. Sure, Ahsoka is probably aware of him in the sense that she keeps tabs on all Jedi-related stuff, but it’s not like he’s a galaxy wide celebrity during this time. Most people probably still think the Jedi are some kind of fantasy beings like unicorns.

I don’t remember the specifics but he and leia are known galaxy side at this point. Bloodline. Has leia as a prominent leader of the republic and she gets outed as Vader’s daughter. And Luke. There’s a furore and she leaves forming the resistance as she’s aware the first order are forming and political factions within the senate are working to bring the empire back.
Young Ben learns about This over the News/holonet and is devastated as he was never told and off he goes to the damage races.
It why han left too. Couldn’t deal with the glare.
Luke is definitely a known quantity galaxy wide at this stage.

?

** and remember they showed us in Mando the second Death Star Exploding. They have news. And a galaxy wide internet.
Thanks for the Bloodline refresher, dime. Been a while.
Did I imagine the bit about the empire claiming Sheev was alive & well after the fact, or was that a different book altogether?

So Ben is already born by this time?

Posted: **Mon November 30, 2020 10:14 pm**

wease wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
wease wrote:I’m not so sure Luke is such a well known entity throughout the galaxy at this point. It’s only 5 years after Vader and the Emperor died. Sure, Ahsoka is probably aware of him in the sense that she keeps tabs on all Jedi-related stuff, but it’s not like he’s a galaxy wide celebrity during this time. Most people probably still think the Jedi are some kind of fantasy beings like unicorns.

I don’t remember the specifics but he and leia are known galaxy side at this point. Bloodline. Has leia as a prominent leader of the republic and she gets outed as Vader’s daughter. And Luke. There’s a furore and she leaves forming the resistance as she’s aware the first order are forming and political factions within the senate are working to bring the empire back.
Young Ben learns about This over the News/holonet and is devastated as he was never told and off he goes to the damage races.
It why han left too. Couldn’t deal with the glare.
Luke is definitely a known quantity galaxy wide at this stage.

?

** and remember they showed us in Mando the second Death Star Exploding. They have news. And a galaxy wide internet.
Thanks for the Bloodline refresher, dime. Been a while.
Did I imagine the bit about the empire claiming Sheev was alive & well after the fact, or was that a different book altogether?
So Ben is already born by this time?

I just looked at Bloodline’s entry on Wikipedia and it says it’s set 25 years after RotJ. Sure, by that time I can see Luke and Lena (Han and Chewbacca too, probably) being widely known, but not 5 years after. That just seems too soon.

Posted: **Mon November 30, 2020 10:19 pm**

oneway23 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
wease wrote:I’m not so sure Luke is such a well known entity throughout the galaxy at this point. It’s only 5 years after Vader and the Emperor died. Sure, Ahsoka is probably aware of him in the sense that she keeps tabs on all Jedi-related stuff, but it’s not like he’s a galaxy wide celebrity during this time. Most people probably still think the Jedi are some kind of fantasy beings like unicorns.

I don’t remember the specifics but he and leia are known galaxy side at this point. Bloodline. Has leia as a prominent leader of the republic and she gets outed as Vader’s daughter. And Luke. There’s a furore and she leaves forming the resistance as she’s aware the first order are forming and political factions within the senate are working to bring the empire back.
Young Ben learns about This over the News/holonet and is devastated as he was never told and off he goes to the damage races.
It why han left too. Couldn’t deal with the glare.
Luke is definitely a known quantity galaxy wide at this stage.

?

** and remember they showed us in Mando the second Death Star Exploding. They have news. And a galaxy wide internet.
Thanks for the Bloodline refresher, dime. Been a while.
Did I imagine the bit about the empire claiming Sheev was alive & well after the fact, or was that a different book altogether?

There was an ongoing propaganda campaign saying the emperor is fine and fuck those rebels.
It culminated in lost stars and aftermath when the empire are finally defeated and admit defeat (and large sections bails off into the unknown regions as per Palpatines instruction to rebuild)
They ran the same propaganda about the Jedi saying they’re terrorists and that’s why the Jedi are all but forgotten by the time we meet Rey.

And people say Star Wars doesn’t do world building.

Posted: **Mon November 30, 2020 10:25 pm**

wease wrote:
wease wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
wease wrote:I’m not so sure Luke is such a well known entity throughout the galaxy at this point. It’s only 5 years after Vader and the Emperor died. Sure, Ahsoka is probably aware of him in the sense that she keeps tabs on all Jedi-related stuff, but it’s not like he’s a galaxy wide celebrity during this time. Most people probably still think the Jedi are some kind of fantasy beings like unicorns.

I don’t remember the specifics but he and leia are known galaxy side at this point. Bloodline. Has leia as a prominent leader of the republic and she gets outed as Vader’s daughter. And Luke. There’s a furore and she leaves forming the resistance as she’s aware the first order are forming and political factions within the senate are working to bring the empire back.
Young Ben learns about This over the News/holonet and is devastated as he was never told and off he goes to the damage races.
It why han left too. Couldn’t deal with the glare.
Luke is definitely a known quantity galaxy wide at this stage.

?

** and remember they showed us in Mando the second Death Star Exploding. They have news. And a galaxy wide internet.
Thanks for the Bloodline refresher, dime. Been a while.
Did I imagine the bit about the empire claiming Sheev was alive & well after the fact, or was that a different book altogether?
So Ben is already born by this time?
I just looked at Bloodline’s entry on Wikipedia and it says it’s set 25 years after RotJ. Sure, by that time I can see Luke and Lena (Han and Chewbacca too, probably) being widely known, but not 5 years after. That just seems too soon.

Leia is a prominent senator in the new republic galactic Senate.
Ben is off with Luke travelling the galaxy.
They both get outed as Vader’s children in the senate. It’s a huge big deal galaxy wide.
Revealed as Daughter and son of the dark lord and emperors right hand. And the most evil of all.

That’s a Short synopsis Of the book. Even or especially if it’s only five years later, it’s actually worse for them both. Scandal true or false sticks forever. You can’t scrape it off.

Posted: **Mon November 30, 2020 10:45 pm**

dimejinky99 wrote:
wease wrote:
wease wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
wease wrote:I’m not so sure Luke is such a well known entity throughout the galaxy at this point. It’s only 5 years after Vader and the Emperor died. Sure, Ahsoka is probably aware of him in the sense that she keeps tabs on all Jedi-related stuff, but it’s not like he’s a galaxy wide celebrity during this time. Most people probably still think the Jedi are some kind of fantasy beings like unicorns.

I don’t remember the specifics but he and leia are known galaxy side at this point. Bloodline. Has leia as a prominent leader of the republic and she gets outed as Vader’s daughter. And Luke. There’s a furore and she leaves forming the resistance as she’s aware the first order are forming and political factions within the senate are working to bring the empire back.
Young Ben learns about This over the News/holonet and is devastated as he was never told and off he goes to the damage races.
It why han left too. Couldn’t deal with the glare.
Luke is definitely a known quantity galaxy wide at this stage.

?

** and remember they showed us in Mando the second Death Star Exploding. They have news. And a galaxy wide internet.
Thanks for the Bloodline refresher, dime. Been a while.
Did I imagine the bit about the empire claiming Sheev was alive & well after the fact, or was that a different book altogether?
So Ben is already born by this time?
I just looked at Bloodline’s entry on Wikipedia and it says it’s set 25 years after RotJ. Sure, by that time I can see Luke and Lena (Han and Chewbacca too, probably) being widely known, but not 5 years after. That just seems too soon.
Leia is a prominent senator in the new republic galactic Senate.
Ben is off with Luke travelling the galaxy.
They both get outed as Vader’s children in the senate. It’s a huge big deal galaxy wide.
Revealed as Daughter and son of the dark lord and emperors right hand. And the most evil of all.

That’s a Short synopsis Of the book. Even or especially if it’s only five years later, it’s actually worse for them both. Scandal true or false sticks forever. You can’t scrape it off.

But it’s 25 years after. I just said I can envision them being very well known across the galaxy by that time.

Posted: **Mon November 30, 2020 11:03 pm**

Word of their exploits have yet to reach earth, so I can see there being some knowledge gaps in the whole universe

Posted: **Mon November 30, 2020 11:06 pm**

Sorry.

I just haven’t whipped out my ‘well actually’ cock in a long time.

Posted: **Mon November 30, 2020 11:08 pm**

OK, the Info was up there somewhere in my alcohol-soaked brain. I had the wrong book. Thanks, dime.

Nothing against Chuck Wendig as a writer, but, those Aftermath books didn't do much for me.
Good parts, but, overall, not very memorable, IMO.

Bloodlines, on the other hand? One of the greatest Leia stories ever written. I should have remembered more.

As for Luke? I'm trying to rationalize my way around this, but, I'm still not seeing it. Not long to find out now.

Posted: **Mon November 30, 2020 11:09 pm**

Mecca wrote:Word of their exploits have yet to reach earth, so I can see there being some knowledge gaps in the whole universe

And yet here we are

Posted: **Tue December 01, 2020 1:59 pm**

Posted: **Tue December 01, 2020 2:12 pm**

who outed them as Vader's kids?

Posted: **Tue December 01, 2020 2:20 pm**

VinylGuy wrote:who outed them as Vader's kids?

Ahsoka

Posted: **Tue December 01, 2020 2:22 pm**

wease wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:who outed them as Vader's kids?
Ahsoka

Baby yoda

Posted: **Tue December 01, 2020 2:27 pm**

VinylGuy wrote:
wease wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:who outed them as Vader's kids?
Ahsoka
Baby yoda

Luke

Posted: **Tue December 01, 2020 2:44 pm**

OHHH JAR JAR

Posted: **Tue December 01, 2020 3:07 pm**

VinylGuy wrote:OHHH JAR JAR

AL

Nice one

Posted: **Tue December 01, 2020 7:18 pm**

Jar Jar Binks or Jar Jar Abrams?

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