Red Mosquito

dimejinky99 wrote:
Try for class here, lads.

Yeah guys... mind your manners.

dimejinky99 wrote:

harmless wrote:The first half is like eating a pretty good meal, and then the second half is like being forced to eat pastry crumbs from the floor without using your hands.

Shit comes in crumbs?

Maybe with your diet, my shit looks fine.

At this point I'd rather have a new TOOL album than what PJ has become (OLD)

nightmareblack0206 wrote:At this point I'd rather have a new TOOL album than what PJ has become (OLD)

Tool is boring.

Tool still knows how to rock

They're pretty different bands.

Yeah they both are old BUT one of them still rocks like they are young not old

The phrase 'still knows how to rock' always sounds like it's coming from someone who has no idea what 'rocking' looks like. We're all getting old, and that'll take a different shape depending on the band. People who do not know how to rock might still be good in other areas.

Also, Pearl Jam never 'rocked' like Tool. Tool was more metal from day one.

Tool's last album was incredibly disappointing.

I loved Tool in the early aughts, but by 2007 I was pretty much over them.

Aghhhh i can agree to an extent in regards to TOOL but their music has stayed the same. IMO PJ had been deteriorating and it's all due to what we all debate over, Eddies shrinking vocal chords.

I don't think they've stayed the same. Plenty of Tool fans think their early work is better. Same with QOTSA, or any band you'd care to name. The grass isn't always greener.

There was a STEEP decline between Lateralus and 10,000 Days. Honestly, I thought Lateralus wasn't as good as Aenima or Undertow either, but I can see why someone would love Lateralus. 10,000 Days was really boring.

Granted BUT their style stayed the same, PJ has been declining since 2009.....

heh I love 10000 Days. Rosettta Stoned is a beast.

I think Lateralus is easily their best and 10,000 Days is pretty great too. I think the latter is easily a more well-crafted album than Undertow (and, while I'm not sure it's better, I'd listen to it in preference to Ænima most of the time.)

nightmareblack0206 wrote:Granted BUT their style stayed the same, PJ has been declining since 2009.....

so your point is that tool continues to make the same type of album, but is getting less good at it. That seems like something all bands should aspire to.

I'll listen to Tool's next album, and probably be excited for it. Every band I love or loved gets a bad album free pass before I start to worry. But I'd hardly hold tool up as a model. 4 albums in 20 years is none too impressive.

we're not all getting old, bro

If the single is released on July 16 can we then determine the album release date based on history?

Edit. Based on backspacer it looks like its a one month timetable between single and album release.