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Re: Election 2024

Posted: Mon July 24, 2023 1:15 pm
by elliseamos
Only 3 of the vaccines "ever" had that in it.

Even of it were a series of shots, that's still not getting you to 187, let alone 400, tines the approved amount.

Now, is he saying I'm anti vax, don't take vaccines?

No.

Is he promoting the incorrect idea that vaccines are not to be trusted, are poisonous, and people should question their use?

Yes.

So although he could claim he's never been explicitly antivax he has clearly promoted/supported the antivax conspiracy idea.

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Mon July 24, 2023 1:28 pm
by Bi_3
elliseamos wrote:Only 3 of the vaccines "ever" had that in it.

Even of it were a series of shots, that's still not getting you to 187, let alone 400, tines the approved amount.

Now, is he saying I'm anti vax, don't take vaccines?

No.

Is he promoting the incorrect idea that vaccines are not to be trusted, are poisonous, and people should question their use?

Yes.

So although he could claim he's never been explicitly antivax he has clearly promoted/supported the antivax conspiracy idea.

"Just four days after a correction [in Rolling Stone and Salon] confirmed that his story had misstated the levels of ethylmercury infants had received—it was actually “40 percent, not 187 times, greater than the EPA’s limit for daily exposure to methyl mercury”—Kennedy told MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough"

But ethylmercury and methylmercury are different in significant ways: https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/v ... thimerosal

Makes me wonder was he conflating the two or were the reporters? It's all very sloppy and gives credence to legit anti-vaxxers.

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Mon July 24, 2023 3:14 pm
by Peeps
Bi_3 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:I havent checked, so honestly I don't know
America’s maximal level of interest in and engagement with RFK Jr, summarized.

I have no interest in him as a candidate, but it takes balls to claim in front of congress you are not anti-vax when that is almost universally how the he is portrayed in the media.
portrayed in the media is a stretch. they use his own videos where he states he stops random people and tells them not to take vaccines. he said how covid was made to spare Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese

"Kennedy said his point in noting that some ethnic groups were more susceptible to COVID-19 than others was a "proof of concept for ethnically targeted bioweapons."

To support that argument, for which there is no hard evidence that anyone is developing such weapons, he cited a slew of media reports, including Chinese accusations — dismissed by U.S. authorities — that America is making race-specific bioweapons.

if anyone is at fault for showing his wackiness it is himself, not the media

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Mon July 24, 2023 3:45 pm
by Bi_3
Peeps wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:I havent checked, so honestly I don't know
America’s maximal level of interest in and engagement with RFK Jr, summarized.

I have no interest in him as a candidate, but it takes balls to claim in front of congress you are not anti-vax when that is almost universally how the he is portrayed in the media.
portrayed in the media is a stretch. they use his own videos where he states he stops random people and tells them not to take vaccines. he said how covid was made to spare Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese

"Kennedy said his point in noting that some ethnic groups were more susceptible to COVID-19 than others was a "proof of concept for ethnically targeted bioweapons."


To support that argument, for which there is no hard evidence that anyone is developing such weapons, he cited a slew of media reports, including Chinese accusations — dismissed by U.S. authorities — that America is making race-specific bioweapons.

if anyone is at fault for showing his wackiness it is himself, not the media

That's fucked up. Did he really say that? That sounds like exactly the type of thing that reporters selectively quote to mislead.

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Mon July 24, 2023 3:59 pm
by Peeps
here


here is how he has said he goes up to strangers when he hikes and tells them not to vaccinate their babies

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Mon July 24, 2023 4:42 pm
by Bi_3
Peeps wrote:here


I don't think he says that in the linked video. In the context of discussing a book he is writing on bioweapons, he said that there is an argument that COVID-19 is an ethnically targeted bioweapon because it effects different races differently or can be thought of as a proof-of-concept that such a thing is possible due to it's differing effects depending on the structure of the ACE2 binders which is genetically determined. He's not saying it is, but speaking in the theoretical. In fact there are studies that show it is less deadly to folks of certain ethnic heritages, that Chinese people are one of the less effected groups, and China is actively developing these types of bioweapons. I'm not implying it's true that COVID is a failed bioweapon, but I agree with him it's not an absolute zero chance possibility given the presence of Chinese military scientists working side by side with civilians at the WIV lab. Where he does veer into conspiracy is when he states US labs in UKR were doing similar research. The only evidence of that comes from Russian propaganda and far-right loonies.

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Mon July 24, 2023 10:08 pm
by 96583UP
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Re: Election 2024

Posted: Mon July 24, 2023 10:32 pm
by simple schoolboy
McParadigm wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:I havent checked, so honestly I don't know
America’s maximal level of interest in and engagement with RFK Jr, summarized.
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Re: Election 2024

Posted: Mon July 24, 2023 11:32 pm
by Bi_3
96583UP wrote:Image

TLDR: RFK Jr. should not hold public office

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Tue July 25, 2023 12:20 am
by 96583UP
Bi_3 wrote:
96583UP wrote:Image

TLDR: RFK Jr. should not hold public office
ty, we agree

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Tue July 25, 2023 12:21 am
by 96583UP
Chris Christie setting a pick for Larry Hogan dark horse late entry into the race

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Tue July 25, 2023 4:07 am
by Bammer
What are you guys even talking about it’s gonna be Biden vs. Trump again

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Tue July 25, 2023 11:14 am
by B
RFK Jr., pro-vaccine hero of the anti-vacxine movement since 2005.

Also, his definition of "censored" is that someone disagreed with him.

Get thee to the White House!!!

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Tue July 25, 2023 12:14 pm
by Bi_3
B wrote:RFK Jr., pro-vaccine hero of the anti-vacxine movement since 2005.

Also, his definition of "censored" is that someone disagreed with him.

Get thee to the White House!!!

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Re: Election 2024

Posted: Fri July 28, 2023 11:06 pm
by elliseamos
Dude wants a secret service detail? What a loon.

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Thu August 03, 2023 12:21 pm
by Bi_3
First presidential debate scheduled for November 8th:

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/0 ... x-00109577

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Fri August 04, 2023 12:40 am
by 96583UP
Newsom v. DeSantis appears to be happening lol

i apologise for my prior anti-Newsom in the thread talk comments

this is peculiar

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Fri August 04, 2023 12:41 am
by 96583UP
he def wants exposure in case biden dies before the election

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Fri August 04, 2023 2:51 am
by simple schoolboy
96583UP wrote:Newsom v. DeSantis appears to be happening lol

i apologise for my prior anti-Newsom in the thread talk comments

this is peculiar
Is there a precedent for this? Candidate that hasn't officially announced debating.

Re: Election 2024

Posted: Fri August 04, 2023 12:40 pm
by McParadigm
simple schoolboy wrote:
96583UP wrote:Newsom v. DeSantis appears to be happening lol

i apologise for my prior anti-Newsom in the thread talk comments

this is peculiar
Is there a precedent for this? Candidate that hasn't officially announced debating.
Who cares?