Red Mosquito

nomorecrackpipes wrote:If needed, I have the original bootleg silvers of the Vs. demos and the More Nonsense bootleg.

I also have Pilate and Low Light demos/rough mixes from 1997 if we're all about expanding the time frame here.

Im intrested in anything you might want to share that's demo/rough/studio session/ect ect related mate

nomorecrackpipes wrote:https://voca.ro/17p936Lc5MVs

this does sound different - the 'obeys' is pronounced differently

and the 'downs' at the end you can hear (stone?) more

and the outtro sounds more acoustic-y

nomorecrackpipes wrote:https://voca.ro/1dI1KCXbvRpl

me like

bass way more prominent in the mix

key board a lot more mellow

outtro sounds more organic

tragabigzanda wrote:Pilate literally sounds like they played the tape on a boombox, and someone recorded that with a single mic...

But would love FLACs of these, or whatever hi-res is available. Thanks for posting!

Another thing to remember is the leak history for yield. A radio station got ahold of it early a d played it throughout the Thanksgiving 97 holiday. That was then taped and converted to early mp3. I remember at the time downloading the radio leak and then recording that on a cassette for my car.

nomorecrackpipes wrote:https://voca.ro/1dI1KCXbvRpl

This Lowlight is definitely another mix. It lacks the little solo and the bass is more prominent. Also the ending is more twinkly.

Great finds. The bass is significantly more prominent in both of these mixes, and there's no McCready solo on Low Light. Also a good reminder of the effectiveness of Brendan's keyboard parts on both songs. A high-quality version of Yield was circulating amongst those in the know in October '97 - right after Brad's U.S. tour. These are definitely not the same versions from that incarnation.

So, where does these come from?

There's no exotic story - just getting to know people on a different forum and trading wares during/after the 03/04 tours.

The songs themselves are both Jeff and they were probably sent to someone after they went into the studio to give a sample of what they were up to. Obviously some finished elements are in the recording, but they still had work to do (like the Low Light solo).

I remember in the middle of summer 1997 the website Wall of Sound had a news blurb about the album that had a Real Audio snippet of Pilate. I don't know if it's related in any way.

hi, I stumbled on this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeQn_xftz50
I guess it's from PJ Mixes 4-9-93 cassette

tremornick wrote:hi, I stumbled on this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeQn_xftz50
I guess it's from PJ Mixes 4-9-93 cassette

Nice.

tremornick wrote:hi, I stumbled on this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeQn_xftz50
I guess it's from PJ Mixes 4-9-93 cassette

I believe this take is from the Sequenced Mixes (Untitled) cassette. It was copied at some point and passed off as demos being found on the Five Against One bootleg CD.

nice

i like that version

the buildups with the toms have a great dynamic element to them

Damn.. that version of "Whipping" is phenomenal. Sounds like almost entirely different takes than were used in the album version.

The only thing that sounded different to me was the vocal take. All the instruments sounded the same as what ended up on the the album.

Another gem from the well guarded treasure in Cockage's hands...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg0DTdudYfI