Red Mosquito

Damn, I love Talk to Me. So many good hidden gems in their catalog that you can forget about for years and then rediscover all over again.

I have to imagine it would have been a huge song for them if they ever recorded and released a proper version. Wonder why they didn't?

never heard it...is there a link for that list?

Pains me to say this, but I think it's time we now lower the curtain on Nirvana. I was happy with their releases over the past decade; the greatest hits that had You Know You're Right, the With The Lights Out box set, the Bleach, Nevermind, and In Utero reissues....all good stuff. But that's it. I'm sure we'll get an Unplugged Blu-Ray next year and maybe a From the MUDDIER Banks of Wishkah live album. But I really think it's over.

VinylGuy wrote:never heard it...is there a link for that list?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uukOdFdyqVQ

Ledbetterman10 wrote:Pains me to say this, but I think it's time we now lower the curtain on Nirvana. I was happy with their releases over the past decade; the greatest hits that had You Know You're Right, the With The Lights Out box set, the Bleach, Nevermind, and In Utero reissues....all good stuff. But that's it. I'm sure we'll get an Unplugged Blu-Ray next year and maybe a From the MUDDIER Banks of Wishkah live album. But I really think it's over.

Hello April 5th 1994

southp wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:Pains me to say this, but I think it's time we now lower the curtain on Nirvana. I was happy with their releases over the past decade; the greatest hits that had You Know You're Right, the With The Lights Out box set, the Bleach, Nevermind, and In Utero reissues....all good stuff. But that's it. I'm sure we'll get an Unplugged Blu-Ray next year and maybe a From the MUDDIER Banks of Wishkah live album. But I really think it's over.

Hello April 5th 1994

As far as releases, man...releases.

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

southp wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:Pains me to say this, but I think it's time we now lower the curtain on Nirvana. I was happy with their releases over the past decade; the greatest hits that had You Know You're Right, the With The Lights Out box set, the Bleach, Nevermind, and In Utero reissues....all good stuff. But that's it. I'm sure we'll get an Unplugged Blu-Ray next year and maybe a From the MUDDIER Banks of Wishkah live album. But I really think it's over.

Hello April 5th 1994

As far as releases, man...releases.

Start collecting bootlegs (if you haven't already). There's hundreds out there and some of them are amazing.

super nintendo chalmers wrote:Gonna share it you jerk? Or you just flexin?

Sure, man. You want a copy?

Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:

super nintendo chalmers wrote:Gonna share it you jerk? Or you just flexin?

Sure, man. You want a copy?

me too!!

Finally got this yesterday. One thing caught me immediately: the 2013 master is actually slightly quieter than the 1993 master. In this era, that's almost unthinkable - especially since masters didn't really start getting brickwalled until 1997. If you A/B the two, you can also hear the EQ manipulation that Albini more or less complained about at the time.

I can't say how much I love the 2013 mix of "Scentless". I've never liked the studio version (I've preferred the L&L version since I heard it, specifically Wallace's mix from Wishkah), but putting Kurt into an echo chamber massively improves that song.


I think the only real things left in the vaults are the multi-track concerts they recorded, specifically the last two Seattle 1994 shows. I'm a little surprised, given the absence of unique audio in the Super Deluxe, that they didn't include one or both of those in that.

(During the Nevermind re-issue press, Vig repeatedly pressed about one other unreleased Nevermind outtake - though I'm betting the master tape no longer exists if it hadn't been found before then.)

I'm hoping they'll leave Unplugged alone - there's really nothing they can do to improve on the existing DVD.

well, they may release a blu-ray

Man, that version of Blew from the live and loud is absolutely sick!

psychobain wrote:well, they may release a blu-ray

I'm pretty sure it was shot in SD, so about the only benefit of that would be lossless audio. Eagle Rock has recently been releasing SD-upconvert Blu Rays like that, so it's not out of the question, but I think it'd be hard for them to justify it. (They could have done that with Live and Loud.)

bodysnatcher wrote:Not sure if this was posted, but a fun read nonetheless. Add: Fuck Brendan O'Brien

http://www.buzzfeed.com/danmartin/this- ... incredible

Albini's mixes are the best god damned things on this set.

B wrote:

bodysnatcher wrote:Not sure if this was posted, but a fun read nonetheless. Add: Fuck Brendan O'Brien

http://www.buzzfeed.com/danmartin/this- ... incredible

Albini's mixes are the best god damned things on this set.

I'm sure this has been covered in this thread, but how many Albini mixes are on this set?

While I have always enjoyed Steve Albini's production sound on a number of record's he has produced...as a person, the guy just rubs me the wrong way. I think he's a pretentious twat.

Steve Albini wrote:Some people in my position would expect an increase in business after being associated with your band. I, however, already have more work than I can handle, and frankly, the kind of people such superficialities will attract are not people I want to work with.

Does anyone remember that Albini produced Bush's "Razorblade Suitcase" in 1996?

The guy refers to Pearl Jam as "mimicking underground culture" and part of the "cash in crowd".

Steve Albini wrote:I do not have a fixed gospel of stock sounds and recording techniques that I apply blindly to every band in every situation.

This almost sounds like a swipe at Rick Rubin. Rubin (with his techniques) has produced some timeless, classic albums.

Steve Albini wrote:If a record takes more than a week to make, somebody's fucking up.

Brian Eno and Daniel Lanois spent a year recording U2's Achtung Baby...that album is bloody masterpiece.

Tyler Durden wrote:While I have always enjoyed Steve Albini's production sound on a number of record's he has produced...as a person, the guy just rubs me the wrong way. I think he's a pretentious twat.

Steve Albini wrote:Some people in my position would expect an increase in business after being associated with your band. I, however, already have more work than I can handle, and frankly, the kind of people such superficialities will attract are not people I want to work with.

Does anyone remember that Albini produced Bush's "Razorblade Suitcase" in 1996?

The guy refers to Pearl Jam as "mimicking underground culture" and part of the "cash in crowd".

Steve Albini wrote:I do not have a fixed gospel of stock sounds and recording techniques that I apply blindly to every band in every situation.

This almost sounds like a swipe at Rick Rubin. Rubin (with his techniques) has produced some timeless, classic albums.

Steve Albini wrote:If a record takes more than a week to make, somebody's fucking up.

Brian Eno and Daniel Lanois spent a year recording U2's Achtung Baby...that album is bloody masterpiece.

Albini is a poser. At the time it was "true"...now is just funny.

durdencommatyler wrote:I'm sure this has been covered in this thread, but how many Albini mixes are on this set?

Actually, most of the two-disc set is mixed by Albini. On the first disc, all but the three Litt mixes are Albini's. On the second disc, the first twelve tracks are Albini's. (Not sure if B is talking about the new mixes or specifically about the two unused 1993 Albini tracks.)

Tyler Durden wrote:Does anyone remember that Albini produced Bush's "Razorblade Suitcase" in 1996?

I swear there was an article (maybe that one where he bashed the Pixies) where he justified working with them.

EDIT: maybe this:

Steve Albini wrote:I did an album in the 90s for the band Bush, after they had had a couple of big hits already. While we were working on their second album, they kept pursuing a particular song that I thought was a the weakest and most derivative of the whole set of songs we were working on. A complete dog. Whenever they asked my opinion, I would admit that this particular song struck me as disposable, and they should concentrate on other stuff.

In the end, they did a version they liked, which I still thought was a turkey, and the song "Swallowed" was released as the first single from the album.

It was also their first Number One hit single. I apparently know nothing about what makes for hit records.

Gavin Rossdale, singer of the band, forgave me enough to invite me to his wedding to Gwen Stefani, where my girlfriend was able to pocket all kinds of "Gwen&Gavin" monogrammed trinkets, none of which have yet made it to eBay.

Tyler Durden wrote:

Steve Albini wrote:I do not have a fixed gospel of stock sounds and recording techniques that I apply blindly to every band in every situation.

This almost sounds like a swipe at Rick Rubin. Rubin (with his techniques) has produced some timeless, classic albums.

There are a bunch of guys who are/were notorious for their use of stock samples (etc) in that era - guys like Bob Clearmountain, Steve Lillywhite, and Mutt Lange. I mean, Mutt Lange made everybody sound like Def Leppard - even before he worked with Def Leppard.

(Another example - and most people didn't seem to know this at the time - but the Reality Bites version of "My Sharona" was a newly-made Steve Lillywhite remix where, among other things, he overlaid/replaced the 1979 drumming with samples. When it was on the radio, I could never quite convince people that it wasn't as vintage as they imagined.)

This is kind of cool if anybody has the time.