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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 04, 2017 11:52 pm
by The Argonaut
wease wrote:
The Argonaut wrote:Pence would become President and get to appoint a VP, who would have to be confirmed by the Senate.
But Trump wouldn't be sworn in. A VP can only take the place of a sitting President. And Pence hasn't been sworn in as VP yet.
The 20th Amendment spells it out. Pence is in if Trump is out.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed January 04, 2017 11:54 pm
by BurtReynolds
bune wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
wease wrote:
bune wrote: Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
That's fucking stupid. We had to tolerate the Republicans blocking Obama's nominee.
I wonder what the average democrat's current stand on blocking Supreme Court nominees is and how it differs from 6 months ago.
See, I wonder what the average Republican's current stand on blocking Supreme Court nominees is and how it differs from 6 months ago.
I'm guessing that a graph of those two things would look something like this:

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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 05, 2017 12:50 am
by LoathedVermin72
Democrats are pussies. They will cave.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 05, 2017 1:01 am
by Bi_3
McParadigm wrote:
WASHINGTON—President-elect Donald Trump, a harsh critic of U.S. intelligence agencies, is working with top advisers on a plan that would restructure and pare back the nation’s top spy agency, people familiar with the planning said, prompted by a belief that the Office of the Director of National Intelligence has become bloated and politicized.

The planning comes as Mr. Trump has leveled a series of social media attacks in recent months and the past few days against U.S. intelligence agencies, dismissing and mocking their assessment that the Russian government hacked emails of Democratic groups and individuals and then leaked them last year to WikiLeaks and others in an effort to help Mr. Trump win the White House.

One of the people familiar with Mr. Trump’s planning said advisers also are working on a plan to restructure the Central Intelligence Agency, cutting back on staffing at its Virginia headquarters and pushing more people out into field posts around the world. The CIA declined to comment on the plan.
Well, he's certain proving where his allegiances lay.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 05, 2017 1:02 am
by Strat
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Democrats are pussies. They will cave.
Ugh. This is true.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 05, 2017 1:27 am
by McParadigm
Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Democrats are pussies. They will cave.
Ugh. This is true.
Yup

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 05, 2017 1:31 am
by Norah
it's infuriating

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 05, 2017 1:32 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 05, 2017 1:34 am
by BurtReynolds
We're all in agreement!

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 05, 2017 1:41 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 05, 2017 1:43 am
by Norah
tragabigzanda wrote:I have a great big boner for Bernie's practical earnestness:

http://gizmodo.com/bernie-just-printed- ... 1790767297

Fuck the DNC for railroading this American hero. I hope their whole party burns.
Ah yes, the attitude that leads to sweeping Republican victories, what's the worst that could happen?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 05, 2017 1:44 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 05, 2017 1:44 am
by BurtReynolds
cutuphalfdead wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:I have a great big boner for Bernie's practical earnestness:

http://gizmodo.com/bernie-just-printed- ... 1790767297

Fuck the DNC for railroading this American hero. I hope their whole party burns.
Ah yes, the attitude that leads to sweeping Republican victories, what's the worst that could happen?
Pretty sure the 'defend the party establishment at all costs' attitude is what has led to sweeping Republican victories, but that's none of my business.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 05, 2017 1:47 am
by Norah
BurtReynolds wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:I have a great big boner for Bernie's practical earnestness:

http://gizmodo.com/bernie-just-printed- ... 1790767297

Fuck the DNC for railroading this American hero. I hope their whole party burns.
Ah yes, the attitude that leads to sweeping Republican victories, what's the worst that could happen?
Pretty sure the 'defend the party establishment at all costs' attitude is what has led to sweeping Republican victories, but that's none of my business.
Fuck the Democrat establishment, even if it means the fascists take over. Got ya.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 05, 2017 1:48 am
by Norah
The hilarious part of the whole thing, is that when Bernie announced his candidacy and people never gave him a chance to even make it close, the consensus argument seemed to be "well, if he pushes HRC and the DNC further left, it'll be worth it for him to run". Then he got so close that that no longer became good enough, and was worth throwing away just to punish the Democrats.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 05, 2017 1:50 am
by BurtReynolds
This is all Bernie's fault! If only Donna Brazile leaked a few more questions, that would have saved the country!

Btw, who replaced her as head of the DNC?

oh.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 05, 2017 1:50 am
by Norah
You're absolutely right, so the left should abandon the one major party that they have a shot at getting control of out of principal, and never affect policy again.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 05, 2017 1:52 am
by Norah
I mean, what's better for left wing politics in America? An HRC administration backed by a party that felt the heat from a left wing insurgency, or Trump/Pence?

Even Bernie Sanders said it was stupid not to vote for Hillary.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 05, 2017 1:58 am
by BurtReynolds
cutuphalfdead wrote:You're absolutely right, so the left should abandon the one major party that they have a shot at getting control of out of principal, and never affect policy again.
No youre right, the left should mindlessly vote for a corrupt party establishment that has little regard for their values because the other side is worse. Said the party establishment for every election in the history of humanity.

Meanwhile, the other corrupt party establishment that had little regard for their values just got smashed and taken over by their angry (and crazy) constituents. If only the Left had the spine to do the same. They might have won.

You can't blame Bernie and his supporters, before or after he was robbed. Hillary lost because of Hillary and the DNC's incompetence and corruption.

Hopefully they will learn, but it's clear from the DNC's actions they will have to learn the hard way. The Tea Party way.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu January 05, 2017 2:04 am
by Strat
BurtReynolds wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:You're absolutely right, so the left should abandon the one major party that they have a shot at getting control of out of principal, and never affect policy again.
No youre right, the left should mindlessly vote for a corrupt party establishment that has little regard for their values because the other side is worse. Said the party establishment for every election in the history of humanity.

Meanwhile, the other corrupt party establishment that had little regard for their values just got smashed and taken over by their angry (and crazy) constituents. If only the Left had the spine to do the same. They might have won.

You can't blame Bernie and his supporters, before or after he was robbed. Hillary lost because of Hillary and the DNC's incompetence and corruption.

Hopefully they will learn, but it's clear from the DNC's actions they will have to learn the hard way.
on the flipside, the party that "won" did so on being incompetent and corrupt.

This world is nuts but burt legit wants to watch it all burn down.