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Re: 13th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Thu August 27, 2026 7:38 pm
by igotworms
He definitely didn't have the same enthusiasm for the album that the others did. On reflection that should have been a red flag.

Re: 13th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Thu August 27, 2026 7:56 pm
by Farmer John
igotworms wrote: Thu August 27, 2026 7:38 pm He definitely didn't have the same enthusiasm for the album that the others did. On reflection that should have been a red flag.
It seemed like roughly the same amount of enthusiasm he had for all of the other PJ albums he played on

Re: 13th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Thu August 27, 2026 9:35 pm
by Birds in Hell
96583UP wrote: Thu August 27, 2026 2:07 am i don't think matt cared for the andrew watt studio experience actually
igotworms wrote: Thu August 27, 2026 7:38 pm He definitely didn't have the same enthusiasm for the album that the others did. On reflection that should have been a red flag.
Matt has great taste, so that makes sense.

Re: 13th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Fri August 28, 2026 4:42 am
by darthvedder81
Isn't there some general agreement on this board that DM is Matt's best work with the band? I think it is anyway. Hard to wrap my head around the idea he didn't like the process. I would think that would lead to phoning it in which he certainly didn't do.

Re: 13th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Fri August 28, 2026 5:03 am
by bodysnatcher
Matt is on DM? Can't hear him.

Re: 13th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Fri August 28, 2026 11:28 am
by VinylGuy
I think his best work is probably Binaural but i agree that DM is a high

Re: 13th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Fri August 28, 2026 12:20 pm
by lecherouslittlestump
Farmer John wrote: Thu August 27, 2026 7:56 pm
igotworms wrote: Thu August 27, 2026 7:38 pm He definitely didn't have the same enthusiasm for the album that the others did. On reflection that should have been a red flag.
It seemed like roughly the same amount of enthusiasm he had for all of the other PJ albums he played on
I mean, is he wrong?

Going from Soundgarden to the Grunge Bon Jovi is the ultimate humiliation. Matt got cucked, big time

Re: 13th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Fri August 28, 2026 1:08 pm
by Farmer John
lecherouslittlestump wrote: Fri August 28, 2026 12:20 pm
Farmer John wrote: Thu August 27, 2026 7:56 pm
igotworms wrote: Thu August 27, 2026 7:38 pm He definitely didn't have the same enthusiasm for the album that the others did. On reflection that should have been a red flag.
It seemed like roughly the same amount of enthusiasm he had for all of the other PJ albums he played on
I mean, is he wrong?

Going from Soundgarden to the Grunge Bon Jovi is the ultimate humiliation. Matt got cucked, big time
I can't believe they forced him to do it for 27 years

Re: 13th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Fri August 28, 2026 3:47 pm
by RockPusher
lecherouslittlestump wrote: Fri August 28, 2026 12:20 pm
Farmer John wrote: Thu August 27, 2026 7:56 pm
igotworms wrote: Thu August 27, 2026 7:38 pm He definitely didn't have the same enthusiasm for the album that the others did. On reflection that should have been a red flag.
It seemed like roughly the same amount of enthusiasm he had for all of the other PJ albums he played on
I mean, is he wrong?

Going from Soundgarden to the Grunge Bon Jovi is the ultimate humiliation. Matt got cucked, big time
Let Stone sing "Living on a Prayer"

Re: 13th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Fri August 28, 2026 6:00 pm
by 96583UP
lecherouslittlestump wrote: Fri August 28, 2026 12:20 pm
Farmer John wrote: Thu August 27, 2026 7:56 pm
igotworms wrote: Thu August 27, 2026 7:38 pm He definitely didn't have the same enthusiasm for the album that the others did. On reflection that should have been a red flag.
It seemed like roughly the same amount of enthusiasm he had for all of the other PJ albums he played on
I mean, is he wrong?

Going from Soundgarden to the Grunge Bon Jovi is the ultimate humiliation. Matt got cucked, big time
lol grunge bon jovi :hooray:

Re: 13th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Sat August 29, 2026 5:14 am
by armogi
And his drums sound like utter shit on the final product, if I were him that would drive me nuts

Re: 13th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Sat August 29, 2026 11:32 am
by joostone
I think I would be ok if they would name this album: Thirteen

Re: 13th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Sat August 29, 2026 5:54 pm
by igotworms
Farmer John wrote: Thu August 27, 2026 7:56 pm
igotworms wrote: Thu August 27, 2026 7:38 pm He definitely didn't have the same enthusiasm for the album that the others did. On reflection that should have been a red flag.
It seemed like roughly the same amount of enthusiasm he had for all of the other PJ albums he played on
Fair comment

Re: 13th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Sat August 29, 2026 6:08 pm
by joostone
And to be really fair..I have never heard Matt speak with enthousiasm about anythimg PJs records or any records.

I remember an interview where he was asked about his fav records he drummed on. He said those were TOTD, Superunknown and Backspacer

Re: 13th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Sat August 29, 2026 8:11 pm
by igotworms
joostone wrote: Sat August 29, 2026 6:08 pm And to be really fair..I have never heard Matt speak with enthousiasm about anythimg PJs records or any records.

I remember an interview where he was asked about his fav records he drummed on. He said those were TOTD, Superunknown and Backspacer
Backspacer. Jesus christ.

Re: 13th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Sat August 29, 2026 9:04 pm
by GreenMosquito1996
joostone wrote: Sat August 29, 2026 6:08 pm And to be really fair..I have never heard Matt speak with enthousiasm about anythimg PJs records or any records.

I remember an interview where he was asked about his fav records he drummed on. He said those were TOTD, Superunknown and Backspacer
I read it like this : " TOTD, Superunknown and [album of the moment] "

Re: 13th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Sun August 30, 2026 11:38 am
by spike
igotworms wrote: Sat August 29, 2026 8:11 pm
joostone wrote: Sat August 29, 2026 6:08 pm And to be really fair..I have never heard Matt speak with enthousiasm about anythimg PJs records or any records.

I remember an interview where he was asked about his fav records he drummed on. He said those were TOTD, Superunknown and Backspacer
Backspacer. Jesus christ.
Spenno’s “Matt has great taste” comment a few posts up really aged terribly.

Re: 13th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Sun August 30, 2026 12:40 pm
by 96583UP
Matt seemed to have embraced the spritz at one point

Re: 13th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 01, 2026 11:04 am
by Aunt_Claire_Foy
96583UP wrote: Sun August 30, 2026 12:40 pm Matt seemed to have embraced the spritz at one point
You don't embrace the spritz.

The spritz embraces you.

Re: 13th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue September 01, 2026 2:28 pm
by DDWJMUVW
armogi wrote: Sat August 29, 2026 5:14 am And his drums sound like utter shit on the final product, if I were him that would drive me nuts
Doesn't take away from the fact that he drummed his ass off on DM. Remember the early reports from fall '23? Each of the guys alluded to that once we knew the finishing touches were being applied.

Now, the MIX was terrible in the end, but I don't blame Wottman for that, I blame his mixer buddy (Serb, or whatever).

Matt's departure likely had more to do with the fact that he probably never envisioned 27 yrs with PJ. He has some work he wants to accomplish with the SG crew and getting those last vocal tracks into final form (arrangements, etc). It's also clear he has quite a few other endeavors.

I'm sure PJ took the news graciously even if they were sad to see him go. Side bar: I don't know how you can view any of the other guys as "PJ's Drummer" in the end, unless you really just don't enjoy what MFC brought from a writing and technical stand point. For me, he will always be the band's drummer. Dave A, Dave K, Matt C, Jack I....all just amazing contributors to the body of work, but not "the guy".