Oh wow, I have seen so many examples of the opposite.Mine wrote:it's usually small egos (low self esteems) that end in fucked up behaviour mixed with alcohol.breakerfall66 wrote:Eddie comes off like some big brother in a college fraternity hazing a plebe in the video clips with Ricky. Ladies and gentleman, anyone that has followed the band going back to 1994 have always known that Eddie can be a major asshole from time to time.
When you mix alcohol and a big ego together in front of 20,000 people, fucked up shit can and will happen!!!!!!
Did Eddie fire Ricky Ramone?
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Re: Did Eddie fire Ricky Ramone?
At the end of the day here, Eddie is no different that the names I am going to list below.Mine wrote:It shouldn't even be mentioned in the context it initially was in the sense that it's so far worst than rock star behaviour it doesn't even make Ed look any better in comparision.theplatypus wrote:That's probably the least significant of all the differences.
Axl Rose
Steven Tyler
James Hetfield
Dave Mustaine
Pete Townsend
Billie Joe Armstrong
Josh Homme
Glen Frey & Don Henley
Only difference here with Eddie is that loves to snow PJ fans on how cool he is by not acting like the ones above, but he does, in spades.
It's Rock & Roll, and these frontman along with others have giant egos the size of this fucking planet!
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Re: Did Eddie fire Ricky Ramone?
I bet bono is nice to his crew.
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Re: Did Eddie fire Ricky Ramone?
I disagree because they were looking for more than someone to sing on a bunch of songs. Do i think they needed Ed to make it big? No, but they needed someone with skills and talents similar to his. It's a complex issue. I think they always needed someone to turn "ideas" into songs to be able to release albums with a normal frequency. It's silly to argue any of them can't write a song, mostly because it's not difficult do begin with. I think that if either Stone or Jeff had the skills to tell the rest of the band what to play they would have done exactly what Ed did, they even had the legitimacy do to so.Anders wrote: Had the band chosen a different singer in 1990, they probably still would have been famous, they are that good. But Pearl Jam has a lot to do with Eddie Vedder. If he's in top creative form, the product will be good. If he is not, it won't. I don't see how any Pearl Jam fans can deny his contribution and effort in being an integral and vital part of making some of our favorite music. The fact the Eddie had a huge say in Vitalogy, and probably even more in making No Code, is not a negative. That's a positive.
This is just my opinion BTW, i don't have the arogance to think my impression is wrong.
I completely agree. But if Ed made a comment like Jeff's on any album he'd be called an asshole for it. Btw I'm not bothered with any of them making negative comments about any of their albums, i'd just appreciate they'd stick with for at least a whole interview or don't make it sound as if they're making us a favour by trying to like it because someone told them those albums aren't actually bad.Anders wrote:I disagree. If any other member of the band had done what Eddie did here, they would have received at least as much negativity hurled at them.
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I knew some people who worked for U2. They supposedly treat their staff unbelievably well.BurtReynolds wrote:I bet bono is nice to his crew.
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Re: Did Eddie fire Ricky Ramone?
On second thought you're right in the sense that a big ego is usually hiding a low self-esteem.theplatypus wrote:Oh wow, I have seen so many examples of the opposite.Mine wrote:it's usually small egos (low self esteems) that end in fucked up behaviour mixed with alcohol.breakerfall66 wrote:Eddie comes off like some big brother in a college fraternity hazing a plebe in the video clips with Ricky. Ladies and gentleman, anyone that has followed the band going back to 1994 have always known that Eddie can be a major asshole from time to time.
When you mix alcohol and a big ego together in front of 20,000 people, fucked up shit can and will happen!!!!!!
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Im sure pj are great to their staff for the most part, if this isn't all a joke from ricky then i can't imagine it was all bad if he stayed for 17 yearsLament wrote:I knew some people who worked for U2. They supposedly treat their staff unbelievably well.BurtReynolds wrote:I bet bono is nice to his crew.
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Re: Did Eddie fire Ricky Ramone?
Imagine how horrible it must have been for poor Ricky Ramone to have resisted for 17 years with Ed. The man is a true hero. I mean i don't see any other plausible explanation for him to have resisted that long. We know that it's safe to assume Ed's a complete asshole all the time so it is safe to exclude it's generally a decent job working for Ed or PJ. And let's be honest 17 years isn't that long.Lament wrote:I knew some people who worked for U2. They supposedly treat their staff unbelievably well.BurtReynolds wrote:I bet bono is nice to his crew.
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Re: Did Eddie fire Ricky Ramone?
Ike Turner, you forgot Ike Turner.breakerfall66 wrote:At the end of the day here, Eddie is no different that the names I am going to list below.Mine wrote:It shouldn't even be mentioned in the context it initially was in the sense that it's so far worst than rock star behaviour it doesn't even make Ed look any better in comparision.theplatypus wrote:That's probably the least significant of all the differences.
Axl Rose
Steven Tyler
James Hetfield
Dave Mustaine
Pete Townsend
Billie Joe Armstrong
Josh Homme
Glen Frey & Don Henley
Only difference here with Eddie is that loves to snow PJ fans on how cool he is by not acting like the ones above, but he does, in spades.
It's Rock & Roll, and these frontman along with others have giant egos the size of this fucking planet!
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Re: Did Eddie fire Ricky Ramone?
Yep, Ed reminds me most of old IkeMine wrote:Ike Turner, you forgot Ike Turner.breakerfall66 wrote:At the end of the day here, Eddie is no different that the names I am going to list below.Mine wrote:It shouldn't even be mentioned in the context it initially was in the sense that it's so far worst than rock star behaviour it doesn't even make Ed look any better in comparision.theplatypus wrote:That's probably the least significant of all the differences.
Axl Rose
Steven Tyler
James Hetfield
Dave Mustaine
Pete Townsend
Billie Joe Armstrong
Josh Homme
Glen Frey & Don Henley
Only difference here with Eddie is that loves to snow PJ fans on how cool he is by not acting like the ones above, but he does, in spades.
It's Rock & Roll, and these frontman along with others have giant egos the size of this fucking planet!
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Re: Did Eddie fire Ricky Ramone?
ask them what they think of Sirensbroken iris wrote:I think lots of people on the Pit are terrified if try post their true feelings they will be punished by the 10c and its why things seem to be very hero-worshipy there, they follow trends. If things trend negative about Ed they will feel there is safety in numbers and vent a little more than they otherwise would.
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Re: Did Eddie fire Ricky Ramone?
Yeah. Because that was the response the above two posts called for.Mine wrote:Imagine how horrible it must have been for poor Ricky Ramone to have resisted for 17 years with Ed. The man is a true hero. I mean i don't see any other plausible explanation for him to have resisted that long. We know that it's safe to assume Ed's a complete asshole all the time so it is safe to exclude it's generally a decent job working for Ed or PJ. And let's be honest 17 years isn't that long.Lament wrote:I knew some people who worked for U2. They supposedly treat their staff unbelievably well.BurtReynolds wrote:I bet bono is nice to his crew.
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Re: Did Eddie fire Ricky Ramone?
Mine is a weird poster. Half the time I'm not sure what he's trying to say.Lament wrote:Yeah. Because that was the response the above two posts called for.
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Re: Did Eddie fire Ricky Ramone?
I think he had that response written and was waiting for a post to attach it to, and when a good one didn't pop up, he just attached it to the next one to come up.theplatypus wrote:Mine is a weird poster. Half the time I'm not sure what he's trying to say.Lament wrote:Yeah. Because that was the response the above two posts called for.
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Re: Did Eddie fire Ricky Ramone?
Ike Turner was not a frontman, but he did run the band! LOLDr. Van Nostrand wrote:Yep, Ed reminds me most of old IkeMine wrote:Ike Turner, you forgot Ike Turner.breakerfall66 wrote:At the end of the day here, Eddie is no different that the names I am going to list below.Mine wrote:It shouldn't even be mentioned in the context it initially was in the sense that it's so far worst than rock star behaviour it doesn't even make Ed look any better in comparision.theplatypus wrote:That's probably the least significant of all the differences.
Axl Rose
Steven Tyler
James Hetfield
Dave Mustaine
Pete Townsend
Billie Joe Armstrong
Josh Homme
Glen Frey & Don Henley
Only difference here with Eddie is that loves to snow PJ fans on how cool he is by not acting like the ones above, but he does, in spades.
It's Rock & Roll, and these frontman along with others have giant egos the size of this fucking planet!
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Re: Did Eddie fire Ricky Ramone?
I guess Tina wouldn't be a bad addition to that list either. I've seen a couple of clips of her being angry at crew members during concerts, Ed looks discreet in comparison.Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Yep, Ed reminds me most of old IkeMine wrote:Ike Turner, you forgot Ike Turner.breakerfall66 wrote:At the end of the day here, Eddie is no different that the names I am going to list below.Mine wrote:It shouldn't even be mentioned in the context it initially was in the sense that it's so far worst than rock star behaviour it doesn't even make Ed look any better in comparision.theplatypus wrote:That's probably the least significant of all the differences.
Axl Rose
Steven Tyler
James Hetfield
Dave Mustaine
Pete Townsend
Billie Joe Armstrong
Josh Homme
Glen Frey & Don Henley
Only difference here with Eddie is that loves to snow PJ fans on how cool he is by not acting like the ones above, but he does, in spades.
It's Rock & Roll, and these frontman along with others have giant egos the size of this fucking planet!
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Re: Did Eddie fire Ricky Ramone?
I wonder what happened if someone tried to tell him he wasn't the frontman.breakerfall66 wrote:Ike Turner was not a frontman, but he did run the band! LOLDr. Van Nostrand wrote:Yep, Ed reminds me most of old IkeMine wrote:Ike Turner, you forgot Ike Turner.breakerfall66 wrote:At the end of the day here, Eddie is no different that the names I am going to list below.Mine wrote:It shouldn't even be mentioned in the context it initially was in the sense that it's so far worst than rock star behaviour it doesn't even make Ed look any better in comparision.theplatypus wrote:That's probably the least significant of all the differences.
Axl Rose
Steven Tyler
James Hetfield
Dave Mustaine
Pete Townsend
Billie Joe Armstrong
Josh Homme
Glen Frey & Don Henley
Only difference here with Eddie is that loves to snow PJ fans on how cool he is by not acting like the ones above, but he does, in spades.
It's Rock & Roll, and these frontman along with others have giant egos the size of this fucking planet!
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Re: Did Eddie fire Ricky Ramone?
Ike would beat them up, and take all of their royalties.Mine wrote:I wonder what happened if someone tried to tell him he wasn't the frontman.breakerfall66 wrote:Ike Turner was not a frontman, but he did run the band! LOLDr. Van Nostrand wrote:Yep, Ed reminds me most of old IkeMine wrote:Ike Turner, you forgot Ike Turner.breakerfall66 wrote:At the end of the day here, Eddie is no different that the names I am going to list below.Mine wrote:It shouldn't even be mentioned in the context it initially was in the sense that it's so far worst than rock star behaviour it doesn't even make Ed look any better in comparision.theplatypus wrote:That's probably the least significant of all the differences.
Axl Rose
Steven Tyler
James Hetfield
Dave Mustaine
Pete Townsend
Billie Joe Armstrong
Josh Homme
Glen Frey & Don Henley
Only difference here with Eddie is that loves to snow PJ fans on how cool he is by not acting like the ones above, but he does, in spades.
It's Rock & Roll, and these frontman along with others have giant egos the size of this fucking planet!
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Re: Did Eddie fire Ricky Ramone?
If he was in a good mood.breakerfall66 wrote:Ike would beat them up, and take all of their royalties.Mine wrote:I wonder what happened if someone tried to tell him he wasn't the frontman.breakerfall66 wrote:Ike Turner was not a frontman, but he did run the band! LOLDr. Van Nostrand wrote:Yep, Ed reminds me most of old IkeMine wrote:Ike Turner, you forgot Ike Turner.breakerfall66 wrote:At the end of the day here, Eddie is no different that the names I am going to list below.Mine wrote:It shouldn't even be mentioned in the context it initially was in the sense that it's so far worst than rock star behaviour it doesn't even make Ed look any better in comparision.theplatypus wrote:That's probably the least significant of all the differences.
Axl Rose
Steven Tyler
James Hetfield
Dave Mustaine
Pete Townsend
Billie Joe Armstrong
Josh Homme
Glen Frey & Don Henley
Only difference here with Eddie is that loves to snow PJ fans on how cool he is by not acting like the ones above, but he does, in spades.
It's Rock & Roll, and these frontman along with others have giant egos the size of this fucking planet!
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Re: Did Eddie fire Ricky Ramone?
What percentage of Pearl Jam fans think the moral of Better Man is "Well, I mean, she stayed with him, so obviously he's not that bad. We all have bad days. Some people straight up kill their wives, so it could be worse..."?
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