Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread

General Pearl Jam discussion.
Post Reply

Rate Lost Dogs

5 Stars: As good as any of the records
19
25%
4 Stars: really strong
44
58%
3 Stars: average
10
13%
2 Stars: Meh
3
4%
1 Star: sucks
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 76

User avatar
VinylGuy
jeeeesus relax already
Posts: 42772
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:10 pm

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread

Post by VinylGuy »

yeah, they have great b sides and outtakes

part of their choice of not releasing more b sides was a downer because i enjoyed them so much, a lot of their best songs are b sides
BONE FUCKIN´ TOMAHAWK.
dad
Posting (live)
Posts: 19163
Joined: Fri June 24, 2016 2:49 pm

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread

Post by dad »

yeah, like..In the Moonlight should not be a b-side. neither should Fatal.
96583UP wrote:i recently bought travel-size packets of metamucil

now when i regular i can promote regularity
User avatar
VinylGuy
jeeeesus relax already
Posts: 42772
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:10 pm

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread

Post by VinylGuy »

i mean....Hard To Imagine!! they didnt even released that one as a b side...
BONE FUCKIN´ TOMAHAWK.
dad
Posting (live)
Posts: 19163
Joined: Fri June 24, 2016 2:49 pm

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread

Post by dad »

i know! also...Chicago Cab soundtrack version of that is the definitive take.
96583UP wrote:i recently bought travel-size packets of metamucil

now when i regular i can promote regularity
User avatar
daft twat
Rank This Poster
Posts: 5356
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 2:23 am
Location: The In Between

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread

Post by daft twat »

dad wrote:i know! also...Chicago Cab soundtrack version of that is the definitive take.
If a version of a song saw the light of day before Lost Dogs - HTI, Alone, etc - those are the definitive versions. The re-recordings suck. That harmonica on footsteps might work live, but I hate it on record.
User avatar
Farmer John
Misplaced My Sponge
Posts: 6459
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 9:25 pm

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread

Post by Farmer John »

Does anyone know which version of Hard To Imagine is from which album session? Or is it the same recording with just a different vocal take?

Wikipedia doesn't give a straight answer:
Originally from the Chicago Cab soundtrack. This version has a different vocal recording and mix than the soundtrack version, featuring alternate lyrics. The booklet lists this as a Vs. outtake,[13] although it had been reported to be from the Vitalogy sessions.
User avatar
rick malone
likes rhythmic things that butt up against each other
Posts: 900
Joined: Sun February 24, 2013 1:56 pm
Location: serious thinking laboratory

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread

Post by rick malone »

I assume it's from the Vs. Sessions but I don't know. Ledbetter was supposedly re recorded during the Vitalogy sessions too.
liebzz
I've been POOSSTTIiiEEnngeeaahh
Posts: 10374
Joined: Thu January 03, 2013 7:55 pm

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread

Post by liebzz »

Which would be silly since Yellow Ledbetter was definitely out in the world by then being consumed by radio.
Spark
Banned from the Pit
Posts: 4
Joined: Wed July 01, 2015 2:13 pm
Location: alt.music.pearl-jam lurker

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread

Post by Spark »

The version of Hard to Imagine on Lost Dogs is from the Vs. sessions. I first heard it in the Hallucinogenic Recipes bootleg box set well before Vitalogy was released. The Chicago Cab version was rerecorded during the Vitalogy sessions. To me, the Lost Dogs version (vs session) is the definitive version because it was out there first.
User avatar
super nintendo chalmers
Future Drummer
Posts: 2368
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 7:47 pm

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread

Post by super nintendo chalmers »

Spark wrote:The version of Hard to Imagine on Lost Dogs is from the Vs. sessions. I first heard it in the Hallucinogenic Recipes bootleg box set well before Vitalogy was released. The Chicago Cab version was rerecorded during the Vitalogy sessions. To me, the Lost Dogs version (vs session) is the definitive version because it was out there first.
It's Chicago Cab for me, only bc that's what I first heard. Man I have it on now and forgot I listened to this version so much in the days after 9-11. I was 16 or so.

It hits a little harder.
David Yow wrote:How are Pearl Jam any different from Toto?
Have you considered stacking papers and getting paid?
dad
Posting (live)
Posts: 19163
Joined: Fri June 24, 2016 2:49 pm

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread

Post by dad »

HTI (Chicago Cab) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTI (Lost Dogs)
Alone (Go Single) > Alone (Lost Dogs)
Wash (Alive Single) > Wash (Lost Dogs)
U (Wishlist Single) >>>>>>>>>>> You (Lost Dogs)
96583UP wrote:i recently bought travel-size packets of metamucil

now when i regular i can promote regularity
User avatar
Farmer John
Misplaced My Sponge
Posts: 6459
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 9:25 pm

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread

Post by Farmer John »

Imagine they replaced Stupid Mop with Hard to Imagine. What an album that would be.
User avatar
super nintendo chalmers
Future Drummer
Posts: 2368
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 7:47 pm

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread

Post by super nintendo chalmers »

wild!
David Yow wrote:How are Pearl Jam any different from Toto?
Have you considered stacking papers and getting paid?
User avatar
Thurman Murman
AnalLog
Posts: 1357
Joined: Sun January 06, 2013 4:25 am

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread

Post by Thurman Murman »

Farmer John wrote:Imagine they replaced Stupid Mop with Hard to Imagine. What an album that would be.
:shock: Would have made a perfect album somehow even more perfect!
User avatar
Thurman Murman
AnalLog
Posts: 1357
Joined: Sun January 06, 2013 4:25 am

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread

Post by Thurman Murman »

Hard to Imagine will always hold a real special place in my heart....despite being a huge fan since (almost) day one i had never even heard the song till the band played it at my first ever show (Montreal 98). It was around that time that i finally discovered the online community and remember the old Five Horizons making a big deal about the band playing it for the first time in like 4 years and eventually distributing a bootleg version as their song of the month (or song X or whatever it was called).
dad
Posting (live)
Posts: 19163
Joined: Fri June 24, 2016 2:49 pm

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread

Post by dad »

Thurman Murman wrote:Hard to Imagine will always hold a real special place in my heart....despite being a huge fan since (almost) day one i had never even heard the song till the band played it at my first ever show (Montreal 98). It was around that time that i finally discovered the online community and remember the old Five Horizons making a big deal about the band playing it for the first time in like 4 years and eventually distributing a bootleg version as their song of the month (or song X or whatever it was called).
yeah, it was great that they played it a few times during the Yield tour. it'd be great if more of those shows see an official release one day.
96583UP wrote:i recently bought travel-size packets of metamucil

now when i regular i can promote regularity
User avatar
joostone
AnalLog
Posts: 1779
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 9:02 am
Location: Netherlands

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread

Post by joostone »

Ive updated this article with a new post from Dave Krusen: http://www.theskyiscrape.com/2021/03/1990-1991.html


Image
liebzz
I've been POOSSTTIiiEEnngeeaahh
Posts: 10374
Joined: Thu January 03, 2013 7:55 pm

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread

Post by liebzz »

dad wrote:HTI (Chicago Cab) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTI (Lost Dogs)
Alone (Go Single) > Alone (Lost Dogs)
Wash (Alive Single) > Wash (Lost Dogs)
U (Wishlist Single) >>>>>>>>>>> You (Lost Dogs)
Not only do I fully support this, but I venture to say that if Pearl Jam just put those and the Brother with lyrics on Lost Dogs, it would have made a huge difference on my view of this release. I’d also add the original Footsteps should be added to this list and if I remember correctly Drifting sounds different also on Lost Dogs. There seemed to be a need from probably ‘04 through ‘13 to overwork some songs to death on one extreme and to leave other songs unfinished to the other extreme. In the middle of that was Backspacer, an album that probably ultimately represents everything about that time for better and worse.
User avatar
wease
Major Dude
Posts: 40175
Joined: Sat January 05, 2013 1:57 pm
Location: Where everybody knows your name

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread

Post by wease »

liebzz wrote:
dad wrote:HTI (Chicago Cab) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTI (Lost Dogs)
Alone (Go Single) > Alone (Lost Dogs)
Wash (Alive Single) > Wash (Lost Dogs)
U (Wishlist Single) >>>>>>>>>>> You (Lost Dogs)
Not only do I fully support this, but I venture to say that if Pearl Jam just put those and the Brother with lyrics on Lost Dogs, it would have made a huge difference on my view of this release. I’d also add the original Footsteps should be added to this list and if I remember correctly Drifting sounds different also on Lost Dogs. There seemed to be a need from probably ‘04 through ‘13 to overwork some songs to death on one extreme and to leave other songs unfinished to the other extreme. In the middle of that was Backspacer, an album that probably ultimately represents everything about that time for better and worse.
While I agree these are the superior versions, I’m glad we now have more than one available.
Let me tell you, Homer Simpson is cock of nothing!
- C. Montgomery Burns
User avatar
Thurman Murman
AnalLog
Posts: 1357
Joined: Sun January 06, 2013 4:25 am

Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread

Post by Thurman Murman »

Spark wrote:The version of Hard to Imagine on Lost Dogs is from the Vs. sessions. I first heard it in the Hallucinogenic Recipes bootleg box set well before Vitalogy was released. The Chicago Cab version was rerecorded during the Vitalogy sessions. To me, the Lost Dogs version (vs session) is the definitive version because it was out there first.
Interesting! I've always been more partial to the Chicago Cab version but love both.

Digging around the band apparently gave the song another go during the No Code sessions.
Post Reply