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Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural

Posted: Wed January 22, 2014 4:21 pm
by digster
Soon Forget is a little sub-standard lyrically, though I think it's a great melody, but it's clearly the exception to the rule when it comes to the lyrics on Binaural. I'm not sure I could say that about the majority of the later lyrics.

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural

Posted: Wed January 22, 2014 5:06 pm
by Anders
If the lyrics were better on Soon Forget, it would have been Ed's best uke song.

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural

Posted: Wed January 22, 2014 6:09 pm
by stip
digster wrote:Soon Forget is a little sub-standard lyrically, though I think it's a great melody, but it's clearly the exception to the rule when it comes to the lyrics on Binaural. I'm not sure I could say that about the majority of the later lyrics.
iant the melody lifted from another song?

and the lyrics on binaural are some of eddies best, better than quite a bit of what came before or after. its too bad he wrote so little on this one

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural

Posted: Wed January 22, 2014 6:10 pm
by EJ
stip wrote:
digster wrote:Soon Forget is a little sub-standard lyrically, though I think it's a great melody, but it's clearly the exception to the rule when it comes to the lyrics on Binaural. I'm not sure I could say that about the majority of the later lyrics.
iant the melody lifted from another song?
yes, The Who's Blue, Red, and Grey

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural

Posted: Wed January 22, 2014 6:41 pm
by Kaius
harmless wrote:
Kaius wrote:She was like the sweetest little lady i had ever met. Everyone loved her. I remember everywhere she took me she would always run into someone that acted like they were her lifelong best friend. She taught me how to do puzzles as a young kid. She taught me how to play cards when puzzles weren't fun anymore. She taught me how to swim, and how to identify birds on our walks around the park, and how to mix a Bloody Mary just right. I remember when my grandma Dottie was sick, dying even, with chemo taking the last bit of strength she had even though the cancer inside of her continued to grow strong. I remember how unfair it feels to watch your family appear helpless as their matriarch is taken from them.
So I decided at about 11:30pm at the end of my shift, as I stared down at the flat top grill in an Applebee's kitchen that I was going to clock out and drive the 2 1/2 hours to her house, as I knew it may be my last opportunity. Binaural had been in my car cd deck for at least a few days, but the volume was down when I took off while I made the appropriate calls to those who needed to know what I was up to. I was only about 10 miles down the highway when I got off the phone, lit up a cigarette, and turned the volume up. Light Years came on immediately. It was like a message from god if there ever was such a thing. I cried. Hard. Some ppl may not be into that sentimental shit, but for me music should first and foremost make you feel. And every time I hear Light Years, I feel that love for my grandma, and I miss her, and that's a beautiful thing. That's all.
This made my day.
:peace:

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural

Posted: Wed January 22, 2014 6:43 pm
by Kaius
Brett wrote:
Kaius wrote:She was like the sweetest little lady i had ever met. Everyone loved her. I remember everywhere she took me she would always run into someone that acted like they were her lifelong best friend. She taught me how to do puzzles as a young kid. She taught me how to play cards when puzzles weren't fun anymore. She taught me how to swim, and how to identify birds on our walks around the park, and how to mix a Bloody Mary just right. I remember when my grandma Dottie was sick, dying even, with chemo taking the last bit of strength she had even though the cancer inside of her continued to grow strong. I remember how unfair it feels to watch your family appear helpless as their matriarch is taken from them.
So I decided at about 11:30pm at the end of my shift, as I stared down at the flat top grill in an Applebee's kitchen that I was going to clock out and drive the 2 1/2 hours to her house, as I knew it may be my last opportunity. Binaural had been in my car cd deck for at least a few days, but the volume was down when I took off while I made the appropriate calls to those who needed to know what I was up to. I was only about 10 miles down the highway when I got off the phone, lit up a cigarette, and turned the volume up. Light Years came on immediately. It was like a message from god if there ever was such a thing. I cried. Hard. Some ppl may not be into that sentimental shit, but for me music should first and foremost make you feel. And every time I hear Light Years, I feel that love for my grandma, and I miss her, and that's a beautiful thing. That's all.
Holy shit, Kaius, I'm almost crying over here. That's why I love "Light Years." I don't know that I've been able to directly connect it like that, but that general theme can be applied to any loss that one has suffered, and it makes the song so resonant.
Well I hope you needed it. :)

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural

Posted: Wed January 22, 2014 7:27 pm
by digster
stip wrote:
digster wrote:Soon Forget is a little sub-standard lyrically, though I think it's a great melody, but it's clearly the exception to the rule when it comes to the lyrics on Binaural. I'm not sure I could say that about the majority of the later lyrics.
iant the melody lifted from another song?

and the lyrics on binaural are some of eddies best, better than quite a bit of what came before or after. its too bad he wrote so little on this one
I'd have to listen to Blue Red and Grey I think, but I'm pretty sure the melody is not lifted from the song. The music is very similar.

Binaural is second only to Vitalogy in terms of lyrical strength, IMO.

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural

Posted: Wed January 22, 2014 7:29 pm
by Norah

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural

Posted: Wed January 22, 2014 7:31 pm
by Lament
digster wrote:I'd have to listen to Blue Red and Grey I think, but I'm pretty sure the melody is not lifted from the song. The music is very similar.
Yeah, the melody itself isn't lifted per se, but everything about it is very indebted to Blue, Red, & Grey (Hence the the "Thanks, PT" or whatever it says at the bottom of the lyric page in the booklet.

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural

Posted: Wed January 22, 2014 8:40 pm
by tommymtcom
Ed made a joke about that before playing Blue, Red and Gray at one of the shows I saw in 03 - can't remember which one, though (maybe Cleveland or Champaign)

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural

Posted: Wed January 22, 2014 9:34 pm
by McParadigm
Whenever this band tries to reference or play off of another group's ideas in their original material, it just illustrates the weaknesses in their own songwriting through invited comparison.

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural

Posted: Wed January 22, 2014 9:49 pm
by 96583UP
everyone needs to just stop over-thinking this and BUY MORE MERCH!!!!

show the world that you stand for a band that meets every four years for six non-consecutive weeks to push out an album like a PF Chang's dinner

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural

Posted: Wed January 22, 2014 10:13 pm
by Mine
McParadigm wrote:Whenever this band tries to reference or play off of another group's ideas in their original material, it just illustrates the weaknesses in their own songwriting through invited comparison.
If there is one think they mastered at this point is illustrating the weaknesses in their own songwriting.

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural

Posted: Wed January 22, 2014 10:47 pm
by stip
I often prefer pearl jams take.

Given to fly > going to California
Got some > gut feeling
Pjs LROM > the who's LROM
Pearl jam sounding like Neil young > Neil young


I do think Springsteen does Springsteen better

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural

Posted: Wed January 22, 2014 10:49 pm
by harmless
Pearl Jam has been a tribute band for as long as they've existed, it just used to be more inadvertent because the songs were better.

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural

Posted: Wed January 22, 2014 11:08 pm
by stip
96583UP wrote:everyone needs to just stop over-thinking this and BUY MORE MERCH!!!!

show the world that you stand for a band that meets every four years for six non-consecutive weeks to push out an album like a PF Chang's dinner
I applaud your ferocious devotion to your schtick

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural

Posted: Wed January 22, 2014 11:48 pm
by Lament
96583UP wrote:everyone needs to just stop over-thinking this and BUY MORE MERCH!!!!

show the world that you stand for a band that meets every four years for six non-consecutive weeks to push out an album like a PF Chang's dinner
Have you ever had the Ma Po Tofu at PF Chang's?

If any of the last three Pearl Jam albums were as good as that, I'd be pretty pleased.

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural

Posted: Thu January 23, 2014 12:03 am
by stip
a pf changs just opened up by us but my wife is a snob and doesnt want to go

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural

Posted: Thu January 23, 2014 12:04 am
by Lament
I can't speak to anything else on the menu, and I hardly have complex tastes in cuisine, but man do I love me some Ma Po Tofu from PF Chang's.

Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Binaural

Posted: Thu January 23, 2014 12:57 am
by spike
stip wrote:I often prefer pearl jams take.

Given to fly > going to California
Got some > gut feeling
Pjs LROM > the who's LROM
Pearl jam sounding like Neil young > Neil young


I do think Springsteen does Springsteen better
the most stip post of all time