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Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Mon April 17, 2017 2:56 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Mon April 17, 2017 4:08 pm
by evenslow
EJ wrote:
darth_vedder wrote: I also think songs like "Parting Ways" and "Of The Girl" would have really benefited from Jack's touch.
Those two songs, plus "Thin Air" were all part of the Yield sessions. Hopefully, those versions will be released sometime. I'd love to hear his take on them.
I would kill to hear this stuff.

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Mon April 17, 2017 4:40 pm
by darth_vedder
evenslow wrote:
EJ wrote:
darth_vedder wrote: I also think songs like "Parting Ways" and "Of The Girl" would have really benefited from Jack's touch.
Those two songs, plus "Thin Air" were all part of the Yield sessions. Hopefully, those versions will be released sometime. I'd love to hear his take on them.
I would kill to hear this stuff.
If / when they ever release a deluxe version of Yield, I hope we get those. I doubt it though. We'll probably just get a shitty remastered album with that concert where they played all of Yield last year.

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Mon April 17, 2017 4:55 pm
by evenslow
darth_vedder wrote:
evenslow wrote:
EJ wrote:
darth_vedder wrote: I also think songs like "Parting Ways" and "Of The Girl" would have really benefited from Jack's touch.
Those two songs, plus "Thin Air" were all part of the Yield sessions. Hopefully, those versions will be released sometime. I'd love to hear his take on them.
I would kill to hear this stuff.
If / when they ever release a deluxe version of Yield, I hope we get those. I doubt it though. We'll probably just get a shitty remastered album with that concert where they played all of Yield last year.
Bonus tracks include:
Cready Stomp 2: Stompin' Again
Hummus (Remastered)
Be Like Wind (demo)

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Mon April 17, 2017 5:28 pm
by TremorJam
darth_vedder wrote:
evenslow wrote:
EJ wrote:
darth_vedder wrote: I also think songs like "Parting Ways" and "Of The Girl" would have really benefited from Jack's touch.
Those two songs, plus "Thin Air" were all part of the Yield sessions. Hopefully, those versions will be released sometime. I'd love to hear his take on them.
I would kill to hear this stuff.
If / when they ever release a deluxe version of Yield, I hope we get those. I doubt it though. We'll probably just get a shitty remastered album with that concert where they played all of Yield last year.
The album shows are my least favorite bootlegs. I'm sure it would've been cool to witness, but I'm so glad I didn't go to Greenville last year or any of the other album shows. I do applaud them for playing Binaural, though. Unfortunately, there probably won't be anymore Super Deluxe Editions of the albums, either. The big $$ albums are the only ones that received that treatment. I just hope we get some more studio outtakes from 95-98 at some point.

Before I found ridleybradout and JWB's remixes, I broke the non album material into sections. Part 1: The Embryonic Stage featured Dave K and Dave A, Part 2: All Encompassing Trip featured Jack and Part 3:Driving Through Twilight (or something like that) was the Matt mix. As much as I love Binaural and the early songs, I still felt that the Jack mix was the best of the 3.

All Encompassing Trip

1.Catholic Boy
2.I Got Id
3.Long Road
4.All Night
5.Don't Gimme No Lip
6.Black, Red, Yellow
7.Dead Man
8.Sunburn
9.Leaving Here
10.Gremmie Out Of Control
11.Olympic Platinum
12.Happy When I'm Crying
13.Whale Song
14.Leatherman
15.U
16.Falling Down (live)
17.No Jeremy (live)
18.Smile (live)

I really wish they'd just release some of the 95/96 shows :| "We love Jack Irons, yes we do!"

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Mon April 17, 2017 6:55 pm
by evenslow

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Mon April 17, 2017 7:26 pm
by LoathedVermin72
I hope he collaborates with Babymetal

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Mon April 17, 2017 7:50 pm
by darth_vedder
TremorJam wrote:
I really wish they'd just release some of the 95/96 shows :| "We love Jack Irons, yes we do!"
Team Jack!


Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Mon April 17, 2017 7:52 pm
by bune
TremorJam wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:
evenslow wrote:
EJ wrote:
darth_vedder wrote: I also think songs like "Parting Ways" and "Of The Girl" would have really benefited from Jack's touch.
Those two songs, plus "Thin Air" were all part of the Yield sessions. Hopefully, those versions will be released sometime. I'd love to hear his take on them.
I would kill to hear this stuff.
If / when they ever release a deluxe version of Yield, I hope we get those. I doubt it though. We'll probably just get a shitty remastered album with that concert where they played all of Yield last year.
The album shows are my least favorite bootlegs. I'm sure it would've been cool to witness, but I'm so glad I didn't go to Greenville last year or any of the other album shows. I do applaud them for playing Binaural, though. Unfortunately, there probably won't be anymore Super Deluxe Editions of the albums, either. The big $$ albums are the only ones that received that treatment. I just hope we get some more studio outtakes from 95-98 at some point.
Lost Dogs 2: Even Dogger

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Mon April 17, 2017 8:05 pm
by TremorJam
bune wrote:
TremorJam wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:
evenslow wrote:
EJ wrote:
darth_vedder wrote: I also think songs like "Parting Ways" and "Of The Girl" would have really benefited from Jack's touch.
Those two songs, plus "Thin Air" were all part of the Yield sessions. Hopefully, those versions will be released sometime. I'd love to hear his take on them.
I would kill to hear this stuff.
If / when they ever release a deluxe version of Yield, I hope we get those. I doubt it though. We'll probably just get a shitty remastered album with that concert where they played all of Yield last year.
The album shows are my least favorite bootlegs. I'm sure it would've been cool to witness, but I'm so glad I didn't go to Greenville last year or any of the other album shows. I do applaud them for playing Binaural, though. Unfortunately, there probably won't be anymore Super Deluxe Editions of the albums, either. The big $$ albums are the only ones that received that treatment. I just hope we get some more studio outtakes from 95-98 at some point.
Lost Dogs 2: Even Dogger
With new vocals!

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Mon April 17, 2017 11:21 pm
by MadTIGERmaN
bune wrote:
TremorJam wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:
evenslow wrote:
EJ wrote:
darth_vedder wrote: I also think songs like "Parting Ways" and "Of The Girl" would have really benefited from Jack's touch.
Those two songs, plus "Thin Air" were all part of the Yield sessions. Hopefully, those versions will be released sometime. I'd love to hear his take on them.
I would kill to hear this stuff.
If / when they ever release a deluxe version of Yield, I hope we get those. I doubt it though. We'll probably just get a shitty remastered album with that concert where they played all of Yield last year.
The album shows are my least favorite bootlegs. I'm sure it would've been cool to witness, but I'm so glad I didn't go to Greenville last year or any of the other album shows. I do applaud them for playing Binaural, though. Unfortunately, there probably won't be anymore Super Deluxe Editions of the albums, either. The big $$ albums are the only ones that received that treatment. I just hope we get some more studio outtakes from 95-98 at some point.
Lost Dogs 2: Even Dogger
Stray Cats (not lost dogs)

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Wed April 19, 2017 3:35 pm
by taffer
I for one, just cannot stand the drumming style on vitalogy sooo boring and unimpressive, one-handed drumming from dave a. "boom, boom, boom, boom". no crazy fills, no crazy drumrolls. and on the other hand jacks drumming on brain of jfk. so impressive, the crazy fills are everywhere.

Matt (especially 1998 Matt)
Dave K
Jack


Dave A
Matt Ch

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Wed April 19, 2017 10:36 pm
by wease
taffer wrote:I for one, just cannot stand the drumming style on vitalogy sooo boring and unimpressive, one-handed drumming from dave a. "boom, boom, boom, boom". no crazy fills, no crazy drumrolls.
You're not listening closely enough.

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Thu April 20, 2017 12:28 am
by Strat
wease wrote:
taffer wrote:I for one, just cannot stand the drumming style on vitalogy sooo boring and unimpressive, one-handed drumming from dave a. "boom, boom, boom, boom". no crazy fills, no crazy drumrolls.
You're not listening closely enough.
I think Dave was a little restrained on the album. Listen to a few of those songs from earlier live performances and he definitely strips some flare for the studio tracks. Rather disappointing in comparison. Dave is a star on VS but Vitalogy not so much.

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Thu April 20, 2017 12:30 am
by LoathedVermin72
I think he's great on Vitalogy. He kills it on Last Exit and Whipping.

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Thu April 20, 2017 12:31 am
by Strat
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I think he's great on Vitalogy. He kills it on Last Exit and Whipping.
Im thinking im mostly disappointed in Not For You.

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Thu April 20, 2017 12:36 am
by LoathedVermin72
Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I think he's great on Vitalogy. He kills it on Last Exit and Whipping.
Im thinking im mostly disappointed in Not For You.
Yeah, he's restrained there, but I think it's appropriate to the straightforward momentum of the song. Ornate fills and such would have been out of place.

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Thu April 20, 2017 12:37 am
by Strat
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I think he's great on Vitalogy. He kills it on Last Exit and Whipping.
Im thinking im mostly disappointed in Not For You.
Yeah, he's restrained there, but I think it's appropriate to the straightforward momentum of the song. Ornate fills and such would have been out of place.
Nah, listen to his SNL performance. Perfect amount of Dave A touch

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Thu April 20, 2017 12:40 am
by LetMeSleep
One minute Dave A is too busy the next he's too straight. one guy says a good drummer is one you don't notice, the next says he should contribute moments. Vitalogy has plenty of great drumming moments (1:14 whipping, his kick is joyous)but the strength of Vitalogy is how the sum is greater. And all of the instrumentation support and help focus the singer.

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Thu April 20, 2017 12:50 am
by Strat
LetMeSleep wrote:One minute Dave A is too busy the next he's too straight. one guy says a good drummer is one you don't notice, the next says he should contribute moments. Vitalogy has plenty of great drumming moments (1:14 whipping, his kick is joyous)but the strength of Vitalogy is how the sum is greater. And all of the instrumentation support and help focus the singer.
I aint arguing that!