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Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
Posted: Mon September 25, 2017 11:06 pm
by Norah
Birds in Hell wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:Are you sure it'd be lossy? It's not like there's some clock syncing that needs to happen between converters; it's simply routing the digital stream signal via a virtual route, and Soundflower lets you adjust both the input and output format. If you're just dumping it into Logic or Audacity or something, why wouldn't the end quality be the exact same?
I guess what I mean is that my preference would be to extract the original files, not create a rip and possibly introduce additional issues. I have a Spotify Premium account set to "extreme" quality, which I believe is 320kbps MP3 (there's no lossless option). Given the choice, I'd prefer to have the original MP3 files over a lossless recording of the lossy stream, if that makes sense.
Yeah this would only work well with good hardware both on the playback end and record end to do well. And then, assuming the file being streamed is lossy, you'd have to save it as a lossless file to not make it any more lossy than it already was. But with the right setup you could make a really good recording of it.
Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
Posted: Tue September 26, 2017 2:54 am
by stip
so I haven't really made my way through all of S/T yet - just poking around. The beginning of Inside Job really feels so much richer. the whole thing, really. There's a clarity and precision and depth to this performance that I hadn't really noticed before.
Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
Posted: Tue September 26, 2017 2:58 am
by stip
my spotify playlist has a live version of the reprise and army reserve
Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
Posted: Tue September 26, 2017 5:38 pm
by Revelator
My apologies if this has already been stated, didn't see it anyway. If we buy the vinyl, will we get access to digital files? I honestly have no interest in the vinyl but would love to have the remasters and especially the remix of S/T.
Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
Posted: Tue September 26, 2017 8:36 pm
by emanon
Revelator wrote:My apologies if this has already been stated, didn't see it anyway. If we buy the vinyl, will we get access to digital files? I honestly have no interest in the vinyl but would love to have the remasters and especially the remix of S/T.
Based on previous re-releases, they don't roll like that.
Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
Posted: Tue September 26, 2017 9:45 pm
by McParadigm
I fully expect you all to be livid when you find out it's the Spotify mix.
Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
Posted: Tue September 26, 2017 10:28 pm
by Birds in Hell
I'd be so relieved if that were the case!
My main concern is that this good sounding master will be a temporary curio that disappears as swiftly as it arrived.
Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
Posted: Tue September 26, 2017 10:48 pm
by stip
matt is really prominent in the come back mix, which is much more delicate
Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
Posted: Tue September 26, 2017 11:44 pm
by MissYouAllDay
BootsToAsses wrote:I have Spotify, and all this talk made me go listen to the records... but they don't sound different at all to me. What am I missing?
Someone posted a couple of pages back that there was a lyric change in 'Come Back' but I didn't hear one.
Avocado sounds the same :/
Try clearing the cache for the app. You may just have old versions downloaded.
Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
Posted: Wed September 27, 2017 12:15 am
by Strat
MissYouAllDay wrote:BootsToAsses wrote:I have Spotify, and all this talk made me go listen to the records... but they don't sound different at all to me. What am I missing?
Someone posted a couple of pages back that there was a lyric change in 'Come Back' but I didn't hear one.
Avocado sounds the same :/
Try clearing the cache for the app. You may just have old versions downloaded.
How do we do this for spotify?
Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
Posted: Wed September 27, 2017 12:27 am
by stip
McParadigm wrote:I fully expect you all to be livid when you find out it's the Spotify mix.
how would spotify have a separate mix (I think you might be right, btw, since a few backspacer songs sounded a bit different)?
Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
Posted: Wed September 27, 2017 12:53 am
by Strat
So is the lyric change in Come Back? That will be the biggest indicator that what most others are hearing is true. HALP
Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
Posted: Wed September 27, 2017 1:00 am
by Strat
Though I do feel like there is a greater separation of instrument sin the outro to Inside Job.
Though, the recordings still feel a bit abrasive.
Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
Posted: Wed September 27, 2017 1:36 am
by Birds in Hell
Strat wrote:So is the lyric change in Come Back? That will be the biggest indicator that what most others are hearing is true. HALP
I presumed that was a troll post.
Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
Posted: Wed September 27, 2017 1:37 am
by Strat
Birds in Hell wrote:Strat wrote:So is the lyric change in Come Back? That will be the biggest indicator that what most others are hearing is true. HALP
I presumed that was a troll post.
Me too. Thanks for clarifying!
Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
Posted: Wed September 27, 2017 1:50 am
by Birds in Hell
stip wrote:McParadigm wrote:I fully expect you all to be livid when you find out it's the Spotify mix.
how would spotify have a separate mix (I think you might be right, btw, since a few backspacer songs sounded a bit different)?
My presumption is that a remaster of the original S/T mix was prepared, along with Binaural and Riot Act, however at some stage a decision was made to instead have Brendan create an entirely new mix for the reissue. Maybe the band decided they didn't like the original mix after all, who knows. I'm guessing that when the band's management forwarded the updated files to Spotify, someone sent the original mix remaster inadvertently instead of Brendan's new mix, hence my fear that this version will disappear once the error is realised.
I could be way off here, of course, but this certainly sounds very much like the original mix just with a lot more dynamics and detail.
Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
Posted: Wed September 27, 2017 1:53 am
by Strat
Birds in Hell wrote:stip wrote:McParadigm wrote:I fully expect you all to be livid when you find out it's the Spotify mix.
how would spotify have a separate mix (I think you might be right, btw, since a few backspacer songs sounded a bit different)?
My presumption is that a remaster of the original S/T mix was prepared, along with Binaural and Riot Act, however at some stage a decision was made to instead have Brendan create an entirely new mix for the reissue. Maybe the band decided they didn't like the original mix after all, who knows. I'm guessing that when the band's management forwarded the updated files to Spotify, someone sent the original mix remaster inadvertently instead of Brendan's new mix, hence my fear that this version will disappear once the error is realised.
I could be way off here, of course, but this certainly sounds very much like the original mix just with a lot more dynamics and detail.
You might like the new "official" ones as well.
Though, i still can't hear much of a difference. But i dont think I have the original album files on me right now

so i can't tell a difference.
Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
Posted: Wed September 27, 2017 1:58 am
by ridleybradout
Birds in Hell wrote:stip wrote:McParadigm wrote:I fully expect you all to be livid when you find out it's the Spotify mix.
how would spotify have a separate mix (I think you might be right, btw, since a few backspacer songs sounded a bit different)?
My presumption is that a remaster of the original S/T mix was prepared, along with Binaural and Riot Act, however at some stage a decision was made to instead have Brendan create an entirely new mix for the reissue. Maybe the band decided they didn't like the original mix after all, who knows. I'm guessing that when the band's management forwarded the updated files to Spotify, someone sent the original mix remaster inadvertently instead of Brendan's new mix, hence my fear that this version will disappear once the error is realised.
I could be way off here, of course, but this certainly sounds very much like the original mix just with a lot more dynamics and detail.
This seems more plausible than this being the BoB mix, and him having decided to have a 'light touch'
Spenno - have you used your premium Spotify account to at least rip the 320k files to FLAC yet?
Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
Posted: Wed September 27, 2017 2:05 am
by Birds in Hell
ridleybradout wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:stip wrote:McParadigm wrote:I fully expect you all to be livid when you find out it's the Spotify mix.
how would spotify have a separate mix (I think you might be right, btw, since a few backspacer songs sounded a bit different)?
My presumption is that a remaster of the original S/T mix was prepared, along with Binaural and Riot Act, however at some stage a decision was made to instead have Brendan create an entirely new mix for the reissue. Maybe the band decided they didn't like the original mix after all, who knows. I'm guessing that when the band's management forwarded the updated files to Spotify, someone sent the original mix remaster inadvertently instead of Brendan's new mix, hence my fear that this version will disappear once the error is realised.
I could be way off here, of course, but this certainly sounds very much like the original mix just with a lot more dynamics and detail.
This seems more plausible than this being the BoB mix, and him having decided to have a 'light touch'
Spenno - have you used your premium Spotify account to at least rip the 320k files to FLAC yet?
No, I might see if I can figure something out later today (time permitting).
Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
Posted: Wed September 27, 2017 2:06 am
by Teeeeeekay
Yeah, have you?