Red Mosquito

scrub12 wrote:

theplatypus wrote:To the people who consider this the best song on the album: is it a little disappointing that the first Gigaton track you heard was also the best? Was there a slight sense of deflation when you listened to the rest of it?

No. To me this is the best song they’ve written post Yield, so it would have been tough to beat.

....and there are a few songs fighting for that top spot. This album is THAT good!

Hatfield wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Hatfield wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:What is a calendars floor though? Isn't just the floor? Like the numbers fall off of the calendar on to the floor.

yeah that's a clunker

Clunker?! I love that line! What a great image for time passing. It's surely better than "East is to West and the clock is to time".

I don't see why picking out another random line from the catalogue disproves my opinion that this line doesn't make sense

The time reference is what brought it to my mind. I'm not trying to tell you your opinion is wrong, but I know when someone else on here likes something that I haven't clicked with, that can help change my perspective.

I can appreciate the line if I imagine that "floor" is being used metaphorically, so "calendar's floor" is "the bottom (row) of the calendar", but I still think there was a better way to express this

theplatypus wrote:To the people who consider this the best song on the album: is it a little disappointing that the first Gigaton track you heard was also the best? Was there a slight sense of deflation when you listened to the rest of it?

Yeah, I think so however, the whole album is a step up from the last two so I'm not that disappointed. I like 1/2 the album and don't really hate anything. Can't say that about the previous 3.

theplatypus wrote:To the people who consider this the best song on the album: is it a little disappointing that the first Gigaton track you heard was also the best? Was there a slight sense of deflation when you listened to the rest of it?

Nah. It's an amazing song. And plenty of other great songs to boot.

scrub12 wrote:

theplatypus wrote:To the people who consider this the best song on the album: is it a little disappointing that the first Gigaton track you heard was also the best? Was there a slight sense of deflation when you listened to the rest of it?

No. To me this is the best song they’ve written post Yield, so it would have been tough to beat.

i think this is probably the best album since yield. there's no disappointment at all, this album is a fucking giant. i'm actually more surprised they released my favorite song as the lead single. which hasnt happened since...yield.

Its such an amazing song....the end is fucking good. Im always lost in it.

Ms Harmless wrote:

Hatfield wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Hatfield wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:What is a calendars floor though? Isn't just the floor? Like the numbers fall off of the calendar on to the floor.

yeah that's a clunker

Clunker?! I love that line! What a great image for time passing. It's surely better than "East is to West and the clock is to time".

I don't see why picking out another random line from the catalogue disproves my opinion that this line doesn't make sense

The time reference is what brought it to my mind. I'm not trying to tell you your opinion is wrong, but I know when someone else on here likes something that I haven't clicked with, that can help change my perspective.

I can appreciate the line if I imagine that "floor" is being used metaphorically, so "calendar's floor" is "the bottom (row) of the calendar", but I still think there was a better way to express this

That's how I read it. I just picture the days on a calendar dropping off as time goes by, which I see as a fine description of the passage of time.

philpritchard wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Hatfield wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Hatfield wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:What is a calendars floor though? Isn't just the floor? Like the numbers fall off of the calendar on to the floor.

yeah that's a clunker

Clunker?! I love that line! What a great image for time passing. It's surely better than "East is to West and the clock is to time".

I don't see why picking out another random line from the catalogue disproves my opinion that this line doesn't make sense

The time reference is what brought it to my mind. I'm not trying to tell you your opinion is wrong, but I know when someone else on here likes something that I haven't clicked with, that can help change my perspective.

I can appreciate the line if I imagine that "floor" is being used metaphorically, so "calendar's floor" is "the bottom (row) of the calendar", but I still think there was a better way to express this

That's how I read it. I just picture the days on a calendar dropping off as time goes by, which I see as a fine description of the passage of time.

yeah I can dig it

theplatypus wrote:To the people who consider this the best song on the album: is it a little disappointing that the first Gigaton track you heard was also the best? Was there a slight sense of deflation when you listened to the rest of it?

Not at all....frankly i'm amazed that there are 2-3 others songs on this album that i rank (almost) as highly.

I'm convinced Dance is the bands best lead single since Given To Fly...and i LOVE NAIS.

I suppose in the world of a calendar, your floor might be whatever you are hanging over or set on. A desk, a shelf, a counter. So essentially that would be the calendar's floor, but not necessarily our floor. I'm positive... positive, positive this is the thought and logic that was put into that line by Ed.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I suppose in the world of a calendar, your floor might be whatever you are hanging over or set on. A desk, a shelf, a counter. So essentially that would be the calendar's floor, but not necessarily our floor. I'm positive... positive, positive this is the thought and logic that was put into that line by Ed.

how do numbers fall off that?

Ms Harmless wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I suppose in the world of a calendar, your floor might be whatever you are hanging over or set on. A desk, a shelf, a counter. So essentially that would be the calendar's floor, but not necessarily our floor. I'm positive... positive, positive this is the thought and logic that was put into that line by Ed.

how do numbers fall off that?

Yeah, I don't really get this. I think the line makes sense just fine, but I think it's in the context you and I just discussed.

So then when those numbers fall off, the next row becomes the floor, until all numbers have fallen away and time is up.

like Tetris! they should have released a Calendar Tetris for this song instead of 3 machs

"Flaw"

Is it really confusing to people that the calendar's floor line refers to the passage of time?

My five year-old has started constantly singing this song. It would be awkward but I don't think she understands some of the words. I did catch her saying "I wanna grow AND dance!"

This one is just so great. Best Lyrics from Ed in forever.

I love the "numbers keep falling off the calendar's floor" lyric -- even if the exact physical sequence it's trying to describe isn't clear, I think the sense and feeling it's trying to convey is, and the language is satisfying in itself. This idea that every day that passes away actually physically lands somewhere, and leaves a hole in the space it fell from -- it heightens that feeling that time isn't simply this passive thing that happens, but rather something we're accountable to, something that will eventually be a mess for someone else to clean up if all we do is let it fall. The outro (the "girls wanna dance/boys wanna grow" section) really underlines this in a way that has turned out to be almost painfully prescient in this moment, describing mankind in this kind of self-interested pursuit of superficial things, until they're rudely awakened by a some force or circumstance greater than their own wills ("stand back when the spirit comes").

I've been listening to this song a lot over the last couple days. I think it's an all-time great Pearl Jam song, a genuine career highlight.

The outro is beautiful and at the same is messy, chaotic, the voices, the music...all i want to do is dance when i hear it.