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Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Thu August 18, 2016 7:37 pm
by bodysnatcher
It's annoying from an outsider's perspective (ie. someone who doesn't buy merch) bc they know how much of this crap to make, and it just feels like they are creating a merch market to rake the fans over. It's just enough to create a buzz and demand bc it might become obscure, but not too much so that anyone can buy it. They've really cornered the "get this while you can....if you're lucky" market

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Thu August 18, 2016 7:37 pm
by CopperTom
The current model aims to maximize profits while minimizing effort. I would rather if they simply aimed to maximize profit.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Thu August 18, 2016 8:52 pm
by Birds in Hell
B wrote:I'm not sure I get this guy's grumble.
It's not like anything from the Fenway and Wrigley shows is a required purchase. Pretty much everything they've put out this month is classic rock band shit, and it will sell out.

The only reason I see for crying about it is if you wanted all that stuff and couldn't get it. Why is it a "turn off"?
I get it, the mania surrounding shirts, posters and other trinkets is something I've never seen with any other band.

I can understand how someone would look at it all and come away feeling as though there's something very tawdry about the whole business and that it detracts from a focus on the music and the performance.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Thu August 18, 2016 8:57 pm
by knee tunes
Birds in Hell wrote:
B wrote:I'm not sure I get this guy's grumble.
It's not like anything from the Fenway and Wrigley shows is a required purchase. Pretty much everything they've put out this month is classic rock band shit, and it will sell out.

The only reason I see for crying about it is if you wanted all that stuff and couldn't get it. Why is it a "turn off"?
I get it, the mania surrounding shirts, posters and other trinkets is something I've never seen with any other band.

I can understand how someone would look at it all and come away feeling as though there's something very tawdry about the whole business and that it detracts from a focus on the music and the performance.
i get this too. I think im gonna start a specific thread

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Thu August 18, 2016 8:58 pm
by bodysnatcher
Birds in Hell wrote:
B wrote:I'm not sure I get this guy's grumble.
It's not like anything from the Fenway and Wrigley shows is a required purchase. Pretty much everything they've put out this month is classic rock band shit, and it will sell out.

The only reason I see for crying about it is if you wanted all that stuff and couldn't get it. Why is it a "turn off"?
I get it, the mania surrounding shirts, posters and other trinkets is something I've never seen with any other band.

I can understand how someone would look at it all and come away feeling as though there's something very tawdry about the whole business and that it detracts from a focus on the music and the performance.
Yeah I definitely agree. It's easy to sometimes see them as a merch machine rather than a rock band.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Thu August 18, 2016 9:26 pm
by Strat
bodysnatcher wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
B wrote:I'm not sure I get this guy's grumble.
It's not like anything from the Fenway and Wrigley shows is a required purchase. Pretty much everything they've put out this month is classic rock band shit, and it will sell out.

The only reason I see for crying about it is if you wanted all that stuff and couldn't get it. Why is it a "turn off"?
I get it, the mania surrounding shirts, posters and other trinkets is something I've never seen with any other band.

I can understand how someone would look at it all and come away feeling as though there's something very tawdry about the whole business and that it detracts from a focus on the music and the performance.
Yeah I definitely agree. It's easy to sometimes see them as a merch machine rather than a rock band.

Especially when they release 1 album very 6 years

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Thu August 18, 2016 9:44 pm
by B
I feel if they were a "merch machine" there'd be a lot less limited edition stuff that I can't buy.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Thu August 18, 2016 9:52 pm
by Birds in Hell
Isn't the limited edition stuff part of the whole deal, though?

There's definitely intention on the band's part to fan the flames of that merch hysteria.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Thu August 18, 2016 9:59 pm
by bodysnatcher
Definitely. And there's a lot of limited edition stuff. There's not a lot of each limited edition item, but there are a lot of items that become limited edition.

Pearl Jam, Ltd.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Thu August 18, 2016 10:43 pm
by CopperTom
CopperTom wrote:
No one lol'd about, "one band's struggle to take it easy." Am I officially a goon? I thought that was quite funny.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Thu August 18, 2016 10:45 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Thu August 18, 2016 10:47 pm
by Jorge
CopperTom wrote:
CopperTom wrote:
No one lol'd about, "one band's struggle to take it easy." Am I officially a goon? I thought that was quite funny.
I acknowledged the reference by going "hm".

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Thu August 18, 2016 10:50 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Fri August 19, 2016 12:16 am
by bodysnatcher
CopperTom wrote:
CopperTom wrote:
No one lol'd about, "one band's struggle to take it easy." Am I officially a goon? I thought that was quite funny.
I don't understand what this is? A poster?

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Fri August 19, 2016 12:28 am
by CopperTom
bodysnatcher wrote:
CopperTom wrote:
CopperTom wrote:
No one lol'd about, "one band's struggle to take it easy." Am I officially a goon? I thought that was quite funny.
I don't understand what this is? A poster?
The back of a poster.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Fri August 19, 2016 1:05 am
by bodysnatcher
I think "One band's struggle to take it easy" exactly sums them up as a band today

They worked really hard to not work at all.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Fri August 19, 2016 1:08 am
by CopperTom
Thank you!

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Fri August 19, 2016 1:10 am
by Iholdthepain
"I worked by not working AT ALL..."

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Fri August 19, 2016 3:58 am
by Bammer
Those sheep they were selling a couple years back cracked me up.

Hey idiots, here is a $35 shirt that cost $2 to produce. Wait in line 6 hours for it, you fucking sheep. Ha ha ha.

Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab

Posted: Fri August 19, 2016 4:25 am
by chuck taylor
I haven't bought anything from the band besides music-related stuff for a decade, but from a strictly financial perspective, they have done a really good job of ramping up the merchandise as their fan base gets older and has more disposable income.