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Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2019 12:22 am
by doug rr
BurtReynolds wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:So New Zealand are banning assault rifles but meanwhile in America

“Now if you own an AR-15, keep it. Continue to use it responsibly and safely. I just don’t think that we need to sell any more weapons of war into this public,” O’Rourke said in remarks that are not at all dissimilar to what he’s claimed since his race for Senate in 2018.
This seems like the smart path to me. Make it unequivocally clear no one is coming for the guns people already have, then stop the manufacture and sale of more of them. Slowly, over years, you then incentivize people to sell them to the government for destruction.
Something bad happened. Take away rights until it stops.
lets just switch to crossbows..

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Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2019 12:36 am
by BurtReynolds
What's the deal with this guy?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12213914

Weird that he is charged with sharing a video, but not making terroristic threats. In my world, the opposite would be true. What kinda assbackwards operation are you running down there? Does no one know how free speech works anymore?

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2019 12:43 am
by BurtReynolds
doug rr wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:So New Zealand are banning assault rifles but meanwhile in America

“Now if you own an AR-15, keep it. Continue to use it responsibly and safely. I just don’t think that we need to sell any more weapons of war into this public,” O’Rourke said in remarks that are not at all dissimilar to what he’s claimed since his race for Senate in 2018.
This seems like the smart path to me. Make it unequivocally clear no one is coming for the guns people already have, then stop the manufacture and sale of more of them. Slowly, over years, you then incentivize people to sell them to the government for destruction.
Something bad happened. Take away rights until it stops.
lets just switch to crossbows..

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Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2019 12:48 am
by Rangi Guy
BurtReynolds wrote:What's the deal with this guy?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12213914

Weird that he is charged with sharing a video, but not making terroristic threats. In my world, the opposite would be true. What kinda assbackwards operation are you running down there? Does no one know how free speech works anymore?
https://www.dia.govt.nz/Censorship-Obje ... d-Material

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2019 2:08 am
by Bi_3
Rangi Guy wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:What's the deal with this guy?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12213914

Weird that he is charged with sharing a vide, but not making terroristic threats. In my world, the opposite would be true. What kinda assbackwards operation are you running down there? Does no one know how free speech works anymore?
https://www.dia.govt.nz/Censorship-Obje ... d-Material
“degrades or dehumanises or demeans any person”

That seems a little vague for a national law. What is the legal threshold for “demeaning” someone? Cannot you not make video calling religious people stupid?

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2019 2:20 am
by LoathedVermin72
God bless America

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2019 2:37 am
by McParadigm
Bi_3 wrote:What is the legal threshold for “demeaning” someone?

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2019 2:46 am
by Bi_3
McParadigm wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:What is the legal threshold for “demeaning” someone?
Nunes is demeaning to the entirety of oxygen consuming life

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2019 2:48 am
by Rangi Guy
Bi_3 wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:What's the deal with this guy?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12213914

Weird that he is charged with sharing a vide, but not making terroristic threats. In my world, the opposite would be true. What kinda assbackwards operation are you running down there? Does no one know how free speech works anymore?
https://www.dia.govt.nz/Censorship-Obje ... d-Material
“degrades or dehumanises or demeans any person”

That seems a little vague for a national law. What is the legal threshold for “demeaning” someone? Cannot you not make video calling religious people stupid?
I've only heard of this being used in terms of objectionable material - not name calling.....

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2019 3:44 am
by Superblood Wolfmoon
BurtReynolds wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:So New Zealand are banning assault rifles but meanwhile in America

“Now if you own an AR-15, keep it. Continue to use it responsibly and safely. I just don’t think that we need to sell any more weapons of war into this public,” O’Rourke said in remarks that are not at all dissimilar to what he’s claimed since his race for Senate in 2018.
This seems like the smart path to me. Make it unequivocally clear no one is coming for the guns people already have, then stop the manufacture and sale of more of them. Slowly, over years, you then incentivize people to sell them to the government for destruction.
Something bad happened. Take away rights until it stops.
No one's talking about taking away anyone's rights. Stop this bullshit argument. There are already TONS of restrictions on the second amendment. It's common fucking sense.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2019 4:26 am
by BurtReynolds
Your argument hasn't swayed me.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2019 4:28 am
by LoathedVermin72
Maybe I should buy some guns

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2019 4:33 am
by BurtReynolds
I'm not really an absolutist on the subject. I stop short of supporting personal nuclear weapons. Though that would probably be an infringement on the second amendment. I guess I'm a hypocrite after all.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2019 4:37 am
by LoathedVermin72
BurtReynolds wrote:I'm not really an absolutist on the subject. I stop short of supporting personal nuclear weapons. Though that would probably be an infringement on the second amendment. I guess I'm a hypocrite after all.
What if I built my own nuclear weapon in my garage? You support big government taking away my hand-made property, you goddamn commie?

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2019 4:38 am
by doug rr
the machetes from kroger have kept me alive so far

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2019 4:44 am
by Superblood Wolfmoon
BurtReynolds wrote:Your argument hasn't swayed me.
I wouldn’t try to sway you. This country moves forward whether the outliers want it to or not. History is littered with such folks.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2019 4:46 am
by doug rr
i'd like to take away burt's guns, give him a hug and share a bottle of whiskey with him

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2019 5:03 am
by BurtReynolds
doug rr wrote:i'd like to take away burt's guns, give him a hug and share a bottle of whiskey with him
In my kingdom, you'll be able to get drunk, shoot guns and gay hug at the same time. Pure freedom.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2019 5:35 am
by simple schoolboy
meatwad wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:So New Zealand are banning assault rifles but meanwhile in America

“Now if you own an AR-15, keep it. Continue to use it responsibly and safely. I just don’t think that we need to sell any more weapons of war into this public,” O’Rourke said in remarks that are not at all dissimilar to what he’s claimed since his race for Senate in 2018.
This seems like the smart path to me. Make it unequivocally clear no one is coming for the guns people already have, then stop the manufacture and sale of more of them. Slowly, over years, you then incentivize people to sell them to the government for destruction.
Something bad happened. Take away rights until it stops.
No one's talking about taking away anyone's rights. Stop this bullshit argument. There are already TONS of restrictions on the second amendment. It's common fucking sense.
Now apply this to the first.

Maybe Miller is dead at this point, but to me the simpleton, it prevents any significant restriction of semi-auto rifles, as they are patently the most appropriate weapon for the militia.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Tue March 19, 2019 6:03 am
by Superblood Wolfmoon
Oh the militia argument. Good luck with your AR-15 against weapons the military has that you’d probably never see or hear as they unleash death upon you and the militia bros.