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Lament wrote:Twitter is a treasure chest of random Chris Sale stats tonight. It helps me forget momentarily how bad the Sox pen is.

Kershaw is obviously the best pitcher in the world. And I wouldn't argue much against someone putting King Felix second. But Sale is at worst the third best starting pitcher on the planet right now.

I agree with that. Cueto and Wainright are there as well. Nobody is talking about how great Cueto has been this year. Corey Kluber in Cleveland as well.

Kershaw, Felix and Sale are a pretty clear 1-2-3 with a big group of really, really good pitchers bunched up behind them. I think the best chances of another pitcher joining that upper group were Jose Fernandez and Matt Harvey, but... injuries suck.

philpritchard wrote:Kershaw, Felix and Sale are a pretty clear 1-2-3 with a big group of really, really good pitchers bunched up behind them. I think the best chances of another pitcher joining that upper group were Jose Fernandez and Matt Harvey, but... injuries suck.

No love for Cueto?

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

Lament wrote:Twitter is a treasure chest of random Chris Sale stats tonight. It helps me forget momentarily how bad the Sox pen is.

Kershaw is obviously the best pitcher in the world. And I wouldn't argue much against someone putting King Felix second. But Sale is at worst the third best starting pitcher on the planet right now.

I agree with that. Cueto and Wainright are there as well. Nobody is talking about how great Cueto has been this year. Corey Kluber in Cleveland as well.

The thing about Cueto is he's always been this good, he's just always missed at least half the season with injury.

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

philpritchard wrote:Kershaw, Felix and Sale are a pretty clear 1-2-3 with a big group of really, really good pitchers bunched up behind them. I think the best chances of another pitcher joining that upper group were Jose Fernandez and Matt Harvey, but... injuries suck.

No love for Cueto?

Wainwright should be there before Cueto, at least according to this season's numbers.

Cueto has a 2.05 ERA but a 3.14 FIP

Wainwright has a 2.34 ERA but a 2.78 FIP

And I'm saying this as one of the bigger Cueto fans around.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

Lament wrote:Twitter is a treasure chest of random Chris Sale stats tonight. It helps me forget momentarily how bad the Sox pen is.

Kershaw is obviously the best pitcher in the world. And I wouldn't argue much against someone putting King Felix second. But Sale is at worst the third best starting pitcher on the planet right now.

I agree with that. Cueto and Wainright are there as well. Nobody is talking about how great Cueto has been this year. Corey Kluber in Cleveland as well.

The thing about Cueto is he's always been this good, he's just always missed at least half the season with injury.

Agreed on Cueto. Watching him even early in his career there is a little bit of Pedro there. He missed a little time in 2011 and a lot last year but every other year he's been good if not great. Next year is the last year of his contract. I wonder if they will sell high on him? I read the other day that despite his injury history he's made like 84% of his scheduled starts which isn't awful. Pitchers get hurt but I'd worry a little about Cueto's frame. It's the nature of the beast. Without looking it up I believe Wainright had TJ?

I'd like to see what Cueto could do away from that POS ballpark he has to pitch in half the time and pitch somewhere equivalent of Dodger Stadium or Busch. His homers allowed would go down somewhere you'd think. Also, I don't mind that he pitches inside and hits someone now and again. Kinda like Pedro. Agreed though Wainright is really good. Probably even a little underrated. Nice trade, Braves.

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

philpritchard wrote:Kershaw, Felix and Sale are a pretty clear 1-2-3 with a big group of really, really good pitchers bunched up behind them. I think the best chances of another pitcher joining that upper group were Jose Fernandez and Matt Harvey, but... injuries suck.

No love for Cueto?

Cueto's a great pitcher, but he's in that next group with Wainwright, Kluber, Darvish, etc. Fernandez and Harvey are in that group too, but the reason I say they're the closest to joining the other three is that they've been this good at such a young age. I think it's reasonable to assume that Fernandez and Harvey are more likely than Cueto to find another gear.

philpritchard wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

philpritchard wrote:Kershaw, Felix and Sale are a pretty clear 1-2-3 with a big group of really, really good pitchers bunched up behind them. I think the best chances of another pitcher joining that upper group were Jose Fernandez and Matt Harvey, but... injuries suck.

No love for Cueto?

Cueto's a great pitcher, but he's in that next group with Wainwright, Kluber, Darvish, etc. Fernandez and Harvey are in that group too, but the reason I say they're the closest to joining the other three is that they've been this good at such a young age. I think it's reasonable to assume that Fernandez and Harvey are more likely than Cueto to find another gear.

I hope Fernandez is good long term. Poor kid.

philpritchard wrote:

Bammer wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

philpritchard wrote:What a game! That entire series was unbelievable. I know it's a bit sad and says a lot about the last two decades of baseball in Toronto, but that may have been the most nerve-racking, exciting, intense series of baseball I've watch in 20 years.

You guys are sitting in a good spot. I think you get one of those WC spots.

Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and disagree with you there.

Pfft, whatever man.

Care to reevaluate?

Bammer wrote:

philpritchard wrote:

Bammer wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

philpritchard wrote:What a game! That entire series was unbelievable. I know it's a bit sad and says a lot about the last two decades of baseball in Toronto, but that may have been the most nerve-racking, exciting, intense series of baseball I've watch in 20 years.

You guys are sitting in a good spot. I think you get one of those WC spots.

Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and disagree with you there.

Pfft, whatever man.

Care to reevaluate?

Not really. I'm not going to let a sweep and a three game deficit with 40 games left in the season get in the way of a little optimism!

I'm confident that adding two of the top ten hitters in major league baseball against right handed pitching in the span of a week makes the Jays a bit better than they've looked recently.

Trivia (try not to cheat)....

Name the 6 teams who the last time they have made the playoffs won the World Series.

BigRedLedbetter wrote:Trivia (try not to cheat)....

Name the 6 teams who the last time they have made the playoffs won the World Series.

Red Sox
White Sox
Giants
Marlins
Diamondbacks
Blue Jays?

cutuphalfdead wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:Trivia (try not to cheat)....

Name the 6 teams who the last time they have made the playoffs won the World Series.

Red Sox
White Sox
Giants
Marlins
Diamondbacks
Blue Jays?

Missing one. All are right but the D Backs.

Hint...they are contending this year.

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:Trivia (try not to cheat)....

Name the 6 teams who the last time they have made the playoffs won the World Series.

Red Sox
White Sox
Giants
Marlins
Diamondbacks
Blue Jays?

Missing one. All are right but the D Backs.

Hint...they are contending this year.

KC?

cutuphalfdead wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:Trivia (try not to cheat)....

Name the 6 teams who the last time they have made the playoffs won the World Series.

Red Sox
White Sox
Giants
Marlins
Diamondbacks
Blue Jays?

Missing one. All are right but the D Backs.

Hint...they are contending this year.

KC?

Chicken dinner.

Simple Torture wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:Trivia (try not to cheat)....

Name the 6 teams who the last time they have made the playoffs won the World Series.

Red Sox
White Sox
Giants
Marlins
Diamondbacks
Blue Jays?

Missing one. All are right but the D Backs.

Hint...they are contending this year.

KC?

Chicken dinner.

This was a pretty good piece of trivia. Imma tweet it.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:Trivia (try not to cheat)....

Name the 6 teams who the last time they have made the playoffs won the World Series.

Red Sox
White Sox
Giants
Marlins
Diamondbacks
Blue Jays?

Missing one. All are right but the D Backs.

Hint...they are contending this year.

KC?

Very good.

My baseball nerd friends and I play baseball trivia via text daily and that was the question today.

White Sox surprisingly have only made the playoffs 8 times in their history.

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:Trivia (try not to cheat)....

Name the 6 teams who the last time they have made the playoffs won the World Series.

Red Sox
White Sox
Giants
Marlins
Diamondbacks
Blue Jays?

Missing one. All are right but the D Backs.

Hint...they are contending this year.

KC?

Very good.

My baseball nerd friends and I play baseball trivia via text daily and that was the question today.

White Sox surprisingly have only made the playoffs 8 times in their history.

I came up with the first four pretty quickly, had to think harder about the rest. I was about to say Angels but then realized that was fucking retarded of me considering the amount of times they face the Red Sox.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

BigRedLedbetter wrote:Trivia (try not to cheat)....

Name the 6 teams who the last time they have made the playoffs won the World Series.

Red Sox
White Sox
Giants
Marlins
Diamondbacks
Blue Jays?

Missing one. All are right but the D Backs.

Hint...they are contending this year.

KC?

Chicken dinner.

This was a pretty good piece of trivia. Imma tweet it.

Thank you.

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It's hard to believe that the Blue Jays haven't made the playoffs in that long . . . until I remembered that they're in the AL East.