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Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sun April 05, 2020 8:24 pm
by Bammer
bodysnatcher wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:What's the spike on "Gigatron" since the Simmons podcast?
it actually went down last week. the biggest spike was in November 2019. this just disproves how big of an effect Bill Simmons thinks he has on pop culture.
I got a text from a buddy the other day who is like a rap and country fan, he sent me a link to the Simmons podcast in case I hadn’t heard it yet.

Guy has reach.

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sun April 05, 2020 8:25 pm
by Bammer
I am CRUSHING the Top Page game this month by the way 8-)

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Mon April 06, 2020 1:55 am
by 96583UP
'Watch out when the Spirit comes'

Today while cleaning out this thing:
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Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 3:03 am
by Kevin Davis
liebzz wrote:So I listened to Lightning Bolt today on my run since I have been mostly immersed in Gigaton since it came out.

I still don’t think it is a bad album at all - in fact it is mostly good, but brought down by a few poor decisions that separates it in a bad way from an album like Gigaton (which actually has a similar flow but it just crafted WAY better and sounds WAY better).

The top bad decision is the polished production which leaves the songs without the same life - they all would have sounded much better with a more natural sounding dynamic or by just altering something about the sound. The songs themselves are mostly pretty good.

On the songs, a few different touches and this album at least passes Backspacer. Sirens kills the momentum of the album pretty early on. It’s production, and frankly Eddie Vedder, turn a strong instrumental into a cheese fest. Roger Waters should have had a guest writing credit here somewhere and helped Vedder with this tune. The place he’s coming from is right on - a sort of existential fear - but the lyrics and vocal delivery comes across as a half baked Come Back when this should have been more like a Nothing As It Seems.

Lightning Bolt the song needs to get rid of the fade out and include the end jam on the live version and it’s good to go.

Infallible needs to be redone - cheesing our the chorus and dulling the musical input of the rest of the band there ruins what is such a promising song in the vein of a Tremor Christ.

The list goes on but basically it comes down to looking at a record where there’s a ton of good ideas and potential going on, but on too many of the songs someone made a poor decision and took the song in the wrong direction.
Inspired by the post, I attempted this experiment yesterday. Sometimes a good album has a way of retroactively illuminating its lesser predecessors, and maybe Lightning Bolt had some glow to glean from Gigaton's shining star. And truthfully, it's been a good few years since I've listened to Lightning Bolt at all; it's entirely possible I'm amplifying its weaknesses in my memory.

Neither of these things were true. In fact, I think it actually sounded worse than I remember, and the songs that stood out as bright spots were way different than they've been in the past. "My Father's Son" and "Swallowed Whole" were always my two favorite songs on here, and they didn't even feel among the better tracks this time; "Swallowed Whole" just felt kind of there, and "My Father's Son" I genuinely didn't enjoy -- I'm not sure any other Pearl Jam song in recent memory has tanked so hard for me. "Sleeping By Myself" I think is my favorite song here by default; I like the song a lot, certainly better in its original iteration, but the arrangement the band gives it has some imagination even if the production does not.

There are a handful of other songs that aren't wholly unpleasant, but none of them are wholly successful, either; all have asterisks. Of course then there are some that are wholly unpleasant. And the production job requires no further commentary.

All in all, it definitely makes me thankful for Gigaton. :thumbsup:

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 3:11 am
by 96583UP
i am going to go ahead just be the one to say i agree with KD's post

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 3:11 pm
by Biff Pocoroba
Three years ago today was their HOF induction ceremony.

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 4:42 pm
by VinylGuy
Biff Pocoroba wrote:Three years ago today was their HOF induction ceremony.
fuuuck i was in Tokyo.

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 6:34 pm
by wease
VinylGuy wrote:
Biff Pocoroba wrote:Three years ago today was their HOF induction ceremony.
fuuuck i was in Tokyo.
Joe was at the ceremony. He snuck in.

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 6:38 pm
by epilogue
wease wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
Biff Pocoroba wrote:Three years ago today was their HOF induction ceremony.
fuuuck i was in Tokyo.
Joe was at the ceremony. He snuck in.
And it was amazing.

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 6:53 pm
by Bammer
Durden may be the only RMer who saw Pearl Jam live in 2017?

That, my friends, is impressive.

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 7:37 pm
by epilogue
Bammer wrote:Durden may be the only RMer who saw Pearl Jam live in 2017?

That, my friends, is impressive.
There were a couple of us there.

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 7:40 pm
by Bammer
durdencommatyler wrote:
Bammer wrote:Durden may be the only RMer who saw Pearl Jam live in 2017?

That, my friends, is impressive.
There were a couple of us there.
Pretty cool club to be a member of IMO

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 8:13 pm
by epilogue
Bammer wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Bammer wrote:Durden may be the only RMer who saw Pearl Jam live in 2017?

That, my friends, is impressive.
There were a couple of us there.
Pretty cool club to be a member of IMO
:thumbsup:

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 8:18 pm
by VinylGuy
wease wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
Biff Pocoroba wrote:Three years ago today was their HOF induction ceremony.
fuuuck i was in Tokyo.
Joe was at the ceremony. He snuck in.
yeah, i remember being super emotional about the whole night and reading joe´s posts.

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Fri April 10, 2020 4:30 am
by 96583UP
the sound of my Dryer from the other side of the wall sounds like the dissonant intro to Who Ever Said

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sun April 12, 2020 2:18 pm
by dimejinky99
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:the guys says its awesome.

Lets trust him.
So did Glen, right? "No Code 2".

Yep

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sun April 12, 2020 2:43 pm
by liebzz
96583UP wrote:i am going to go ahead just be the one to say i agree with KD's post
It’s still much better than Dirty Work.

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Tue April 14, 2020 1:14 am
by VinylGuy
listening to NY 98 and thinking...boy, ¨Alive¨ is going to be super emotional to hear live after this.

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu April 23, 2020 4:14 pm
by Leatherhead
It's really hard to find a good Pearl Jam poster, or print of some kind, to put in a frame and put on my wall. Unless I want something from a specific show, but I don't think I do.

Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sat April 25, 2020 4:50 pm
by gardenparty
I’m sure its already been mentioned but Ed has been added to the lineup for Jack Johnsons Kokua festival. Today at 3

Great lineup!