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Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sun February 16, 2020 1:09 am
by wease
tragabigzanda wrote:Simple Torture wrote:The election still seems so far away, but I had a surreal experience last night when I drove by a "New England for Trump" storefront in Bellingham. I figured it was a campaign office, but I did some searching and found that it's just a store that sells MAGA hats and other Trump-brand merchandise. Quite jarring when we are still so far away from having yard signs out.
New England white trash is my least favorite brand of white trash
Ever know any rural southern white trash?
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sun February 16, 2020 1:15 am
by doug rr
wease wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:Simple Torture wrote:The election still seems so far away, but I had a surreal experience last night when I drove by a "New England for Trump" storefront in Bellingham. I figured it was a campaign office, but I did some searching and found that it's just a store that sells MAGA hats and other Trump-brand merchandise. Quite jarring when we are still so far away from having yard signs out.
New England white trash is my least favorite brand of white trash
Ever know any rural southern white trash?
yes, once
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sun February 16, 2020 1:39 am
by bart
lol
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sun February 16, 2020 2:03 am
by Bi_3
The progs are in full panic mode over bloomy. Things are looking up
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sun February 16, 2020 2:05 am
by BurtReynolds
Pretty good season so far. Every new episode has some pretty crazy plot twists!
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sun February 16, 2020 2:11 am
by 96583UP
yes Klobuchar's 18 seconds of fame seem to already have evaporated
it's Bloomy v. Bernie now, according to
The Atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ce/606619/
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sun February 16, 2020 2:41 am
by Rob
Bi_3 wrote:The progs are in full panic mode over bloomy. Things are looking up
Really?
Rob wrote:
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sun February 16, 2020 2:44 am
by 96583UP
Warren's recent performance does not seem to evidence the accuracy of that poll
whereas The Atlantic, well
i dare not say more
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sun February 16, 2020 2:46 am
by 96583UP
i am pleased that the head-on battle will begin soon
too much left to mystery thus far
it's time to drop trow and just get pounding
sort this thing out
and let the best candidate win when the superdelegates screw Bernie again
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sun February 16, 2020 2:48 am
by 96583UP
hmmmmmm
https://images.homedepot-static.com/pro ... 4_1000.jpg
WHAT ABOUT SUPERDELEGATES?
Superdelegates are elected Democratic officeholders who are part of each state’s delegation but are not committed to vote based on the outcome of the state’s nominating contest. All Democratic members of Congress and state governors are superdelegates.
In 2016, many superdelegates announced early support for Clinton, drawing criticism that the party was tipping the scales in her favor.
Superdelegates haven’t been eliminated in 2020, but new rules limit their influence. This cycle, they will likely not vote on the first ballot at the convention.
To win on the first ballot, the front-runner must secure the majority of the party’s 3,768 pledged delegates available during the nominating contests leading up to the Democratic convention.
If the front-runner has fewer than 1,885 delegates, the convention will hold a second vote. On subsequent ballots, all delegates become unpledged and superdelegates can also vote.
Then, a majority of all 4,532 delegates will be needed to secure the nomination.
If a candidate wins a supermajority of pledged delegates - or about 2,267 - then superdelegates are permitted to vote on the first ballot.
No one is getting over 50% here
Bernie will get to 35% at best
so the real long-game here is courting superdelegates
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sun February 16, 2020 2:50 am
by Rob
96583UP wrote:Warren's recent performance does not seem to evidence the accuracy of that poll
whereas The Atlantic, well
i dare not say more
It's a well rated poll, and obviously those are hypothetical races. But this is how people answered. Bloomberg is less popular than all of them head to head.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sun February 16, 2020 2:58 am
by Rob
96583UP wrote:
WHAT ABOUT SUPERDELEGATES?
No one is getting over 50% here
Bernie will get to 35% at best
so the real long-game here is courting superdelegates
If Bernie has the most votes/delegates, and then the party gives it to Bloomberg, the left wing won't unite fully with the center. Blame Bernie bros all you want, but we all know this ahead of time. This would be the decision most likely to re-elect Trump.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sun February 16, 2020 3:03 am
by 96583UP
Rob wrote:96583UP wrote:
WHAT ABOUT SUPERDELEGATES?
No one is getting over 50% here
Bernie will get to 35% at best
so the real long-game here is courting superdelegates
If Bernie has the most votes/delegates, and then the party gives it to Bloomberg, the left wing won't unite fully with the center. Blame Bernie bros all you want, but we all know this ahead of time. This would be the decision most likely to re-elect Trump.
Unless, Bloomberg can appeal enough to Trump's own supporters that he can lure them into switching sides... but how........
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sun February 16, 2020 3:05 am
by 96583UP
Rob wrote:96583UP wrote:
WHAT ABOUT SUPERDELEGATES?
No one is getting over 50% here
Bernie will get to 35% at best
so the real long-game here is courting superdelegates
If Bernie has the most votes/delegates, and then the party gives it to Bloomberg, the left wing won't unite fully with the center. Blame Bernie bros all you want, but we all know this ahead of time. This would be the decision most likely to re-elect Trump.
but seriously, I don't think the DNC thinks that way / that they are a 'rational' decision-making entity
more like a cadre of easily-bribed rabid squirrels
Bloomy comes in and pays and employs enough people and they jump on board and give him the votes
and the rest is up to Bloomy's money machine to figure out
which could involve appointing a lib-appealing VP, and Bernie throwing his support at Bloomy for the sake of defeating trump
and then eventually the ultra-progs come crawling back like the centrist mall shoppers they truly are
but regardless, DNC will give him the votes
these are people who liked/supported Hillary Clinton we are talking about
clearly they have no principles
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sun February 16, 2020 11:17 pm
by BurtReynolds
Circumstantial evidence, but interesting thread.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sun February 16, 2020 11:24 pm
by 96583UP
i wonder if it will be used to purchase superdelegates
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Mon February 17, 2020 5:18 am
by Rob
Implications for NV, CA, TX... Bernie is actually doing very well with Latinos, the largest minority group.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Mon February 17, 2020 5:30 am
by Orpheus
Because he has policies designed to actually help them, what a crazy thought.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Mon February 17, 2020 1:44 pm
by Bi_3
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Mon February 17, 2020 1:58 pm
by JuanHamm
David Brooks out of touch? Color me surprised.