Red Mosquito

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

stip wrote:Man, I hate bon jovi. Some of the late 80s, early 90s stuff is kinda fun if I'm in the right campy/nostalgic mood (I used to really like him), but why they are still popular just boggles the mind. I had a whole class of 12 year old girls in love with in my life in 2000, and I wanted to fail every one of them on principle.

im sure a lot of their current popularity is from their switch to country recently, or at least doing a song or 2 that were getting played on country stations, it seems like people who listen to pop country stations will love anything put in front of them

Then our mission is clear.

McParadigm wrote:

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

stip wrote:Man, I hate bon jovi. Some of the late 80s, early 90s stuff is kinda fun if I'm in the right campy/nostalgic mood (I used to really like him), but why they are still popular just boggles the mind. I had a whole class of 12 year old girls in love with in my life in 2000, and I wanted to fail every one of them on principle.

im sure a lot of their current popularity is from their switch to country recently, or at least doing a song or 2 that were getting played on country stations, it seems like people who listen to pop country stations will love anything put in front of them

Then our mission is clear.

McParadigm wrote:

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

stip wrote:Man, I hate bon jovi. Some of the late 80s, early 90s stuff is kinda fun if I'm in the right campy/nostalgic mood (I used to really like him), but why they are still popular just boggles the mind. I had a whole class of 12 year old girls in love with in my life in 2000, and I wanted to fail every one of them on principle.

im sure a lot of their current popularity is from their switch to country recently, or at least doing a song or 2 that were getting played on country stations, it seems like people who listen to pop country stations will love anything put in front of them

Then our mission is clear.

Nuke country stations and fans?

McParadigm wrote:

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

stip wrote:Man, I hate bon jovi. Some of the late 80s, early 90s stuff is kinda fun if I'm in the right campy/nostalgic mood (I used to really like him), but why they are still popular just boggles the mind. I had a whole class of 12 year old girls in love with in my life in 2000, and I wanted to fail every one of them on principle.

im sure a lot of their current popularity is from their switch to country recently, or at least doing a song or 2 that were getting played on country stations, it seems like people who listen to pop country stations will love anything put in front of them

Then our mission is clear.

no reward is worth this.

which band are we talking about again?

BurtReynolds wrote:which band are we talking about again?

Radiohead, I thought.

Still not feeling it
'Sirens' and 'LTRP' are the two definite low points on the album for me.

I find I'm a lot kinder in my thoughts about this song when I don't actually listen to it.

McParadigm wrote:I find I'm a lot kinder in my thoughts about this song when I don't actually listen to it.

i was the other way around at first, i gave it those 2 listens when the single was released and loved it, but kept thinking that i probably was just loving that it was new PJ and not really the song because it was so different, but every time i listen to it i get chills, though im sure that will fade soon, but 10 or so listens and somehting in the song giving me chills each time is pretty good

There aren't any individual parts or moments in the song that I can't stand...its too safely made for that to happen...and there are a few things that I think positively on (mostly Stone). So if I don't listen to it I find myself thinking "well, it's not such a bad song. It may even be…"

And then every time I hear it all I can think is "God, why is this so fucking boring?" I tried giving it one last spin before pulling the album off my iPhone this morning, and I couldn't make it through the whole song. The "next" button has never looked so provocatively sexy before.

Hey McParadigm, I believe it's the time of the week where I thank you for telling us how this thing is doing on the charts.

I like it, but i'm an old guy now with two kids.

To me, it takes some of the sentiments from Backspacer and delivers them in a sonic package that doesn't make me want to slit my throat.

#1 at Triple A. No sign of getting picked up by the Adult channels...that becomes less and less likely with every week. Too bad.

It's floating at or near 15 on each of the 3 rock formats. Total plays last week were just north of 2,000...it's gotten a little less than 8,000 in four weeks, versus Manners' 11,000 start. I think it'll be a middling, Life Wasted-sized single on those, but will be boosted by Triple A (a Triple A #1 has the play and audience size numbers equivalent to a #20 single at Active Rock).

McParadigm wrote:#1 at Triple A. No sign of getting picked up by the Adult channels...that becomes less and less likely with every week. Too bad.

It's floating at or near 15 on each of the 3 rock formats. Total plays last week were just north of 2,000...it's gotten a little less than 8,000 in four weeks, versus Manners' 11,000 start. I think it'll be a middling, Life Wasted-sized single on those, but will be boosted by Triple A (a Triple A #1 has the play and audience size numbers equivalent to a #20 single at Active Rock).

Thank you.

Hmmm, that sounds a bit disappointing to me but I'm sure I'm overrating an almost 6-minute song about middle-aged anxiety.

I'm quite liking this new "bat signal" thing we have going re: the charts btw.

It's nice we have a thing.

I'll see you next week when Sirens out of nowhere leaps Miley Cyrus in a single bound.

RE: The Charts, the most important thing is that it's still moving upward in plays at a steady clip. It has a chance to be a slow burner if it keeps that up (Just Breath was a slow burner, for example). The other good news is that it was picked up by KROQ last week (#1 alternative station in the U.S.) and they're giving it good airplay. Some stations in smaller markets mimic their playlists off of them so it's possible that could lead to a spillover effect.

evenslow wrote:

McParadigm wrote:#1 at Triple A. No sign of getting picked up by the Adult channels...that becomes less and less likely with every week. Too bad.

It's floating at or near 15 on each of the 3 rock formats. Total plays last week were just north of 2,000...it's gotten a little less than 8,000 in four weeks, versus Manners' 11,000 start. I think it'll be a middling, Life Wasted-sized single on those, but will be boosted by Triple A (a Triple A #1 has the play and audience size numbers equivalent to a #20 single at Active Rock).

Thank you.

Hmmm, that sounds a bit disappointing to me but I'm sure I'm overrating an almost 6-minute song about middle-aged anxiety.

I'm quite liking this new "bat signal" thing we have going re: the charts btw.

Heavy post warning:

I'm 31. I almost lost my life in my mid-20s due to a fuck up with my condition (a shunt malfunction). I lost the power of speech and had to be carried off by ambulance. I remember hearing the siren, before I fell asleep, and the next thing I know is waking up in recovery. The event eventually lead to my first wife divorcing me. I'm now married again, and to the one I plan to be with for the rest of my life. And yet, since my mid-20s, mortality has been a huge deal to me, and it's on my mind more and more. If I think too much, I can get over






































whelmed.

So, it is not a middle-age song. Relax. This is a wonderful damn song, and I'm so glad that PJ wrote it now.

i think ive had issues with mortality for a long time, so songs like the end and sirens always hit me pretty hard, thats probably the reason i still get chills every time i listen to sirens

harmless wrote:I'm 31. I almost lost my life in my mid-20s due to a fuck up with my condition (a shunt malfunction). I lost the power of speech and had to be carried off by ambulance. I remember hearing the siren, before I fell asleep, and the next thing I know is waking up in recovery.

What is it with shunts? My brother's got wrapped around something internal when he was...hell, I don't even remember. No, he must have been 5 or 6, because I'm pretty sure I was 9. He spent the summer in the hospital (amazingly, the staff and our parents arranged for me stay overnight with him on several occasions...can't imagine that happening now), and underwent six surgeries. They drew blood so many times that summer that they started to run out of reliable veins. I can very much remember them bringing us back to say goodbye to him before the last few surgeries.

Fucking shunts, man.

The event eventually lead to my first wife divorcing me.

WHAT IS IT WITH WOMEN AND SHUNT PROBLEMS? My parent's marriage fell apart during that hospital stay, too.

I'm now married again, and to the one I plan to be with for the rest of my life. And yet, since my mid-20s, mortality has been a huge deal to me, and it's on my mind more and more. If I think too much, I can get overwhelmed.

So, it is not a middle-age song. Relax.

It's a mortality song, sure. But a specific type of mortality song...it's not, for example, a mortality song in the way Brothers in Arms is a mortality song, or Immortality, or All We Ever Have is Now or even The End.

We're all aware of death, and no one wants to die...but the way that we experience (and subsequently express) that feeling is forever being affected by our situation and circumstances. The nature of that expression in Sirens just happens to be of a type that will most commonly be identified with later adulthood (ie themes of parenthood and the way that our fragility breeds a type of unavoidable helplessness, but also a type of appreciation of life and introspection that is different from the type commonly expressed by the young).

So in that way, it is a middle-age song. But who cares? That's not a knock on it at all. Getting older doesn't have to be the end of the w



Well, okay, there are limits. But you get my point.