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Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue March 08, 2022 2:56 pm
by Ms Harmless
tragabigzanda wrote:One of their (Dano/Kazan) best movies is Wild Life. Dano directed, Kazan produced(?), neither is in the film
maybe I'll watch that next!

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue March 08, 2022 2:57 pm
by Ms Harmless
Jorge wrote:Ruby Sparks was sweet from what I remember. Written by Zoe Kazan, Ruby Sparks herself. She's had an interesting career
oh really? that's cool!

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue March 08, 2022 2:57 pm
by tree_
BurtReynolds wrote:I really don't care for Dano. He's alright I guess, but is not my cup of tea. Maybe in the right movie he could work...
I feel similarly, but he kills it in that Beach Boys movie

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue March 08, 2022 3:03 pm
by The Argonaut
"you cheated on me, I'm devastated, oh woe, oh sadness, oh oh oh, oh explode my life and act like a baby" is one of the most boring and immature movie plots, that's for sure

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue March 08, 2022 3:04 pm
by tree_
which movie is that, argo?

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue March 08, 2022 3:08 pm
by The Argonaut
Planet of the Apes, for one

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue March 08, 2022 3:20 pm
by Ms Harmless
The Argonaut wrote:"you cheated on me, I'm devastated, oh woe, oh sadness, oh oh oh, oh explode my life and act like a baby" is one of the most boring and immature movie plots, that's for sure
yeah, so I just think that her little "my love contains multitudes" speech was quite nice; obviously it wasn't polyamory because he wasn't aware it was happening, which is just plain "cheating", and maybe going forward and asking if there was a way they could still be together would require a second movie

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue March 08, 2022 3:24 pm
by Jorge
Ms Harmless wrote:
Jorge wrote:I don't think most people can just choose to be polyamorous
that may be true (for me it wasn't a natural orientation, though, it just made sense after a lot of trial and error), but writers / directors can acknowledge that it's a possibility that exists, and the film doesn't; it assumes "monogamy, or heartbreak"; a lot of "love triangle" plots could be made more interesting if polyamory was even acknowledged to exist in their fictional worlds
What would acknowledging the existence of polyamory do to advance the film's themes or the story it's telling? And what would it look like in practice? Seems like it would be an awkward and jarring interruption IMO. We already know from what we're seeing that Joaquin doesn't work that way. Or maybe this is polyamorous origin story

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue March 08, 2022 3:25 pm
by tree_
It would be nice to see more representation of polyamorous robots in hollywood though

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue March 08, 2022 3:28 pm
by tree_
It's not cheating if it's AI... it's artificial to begin with

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue March 08, 2022 3:29 pm
by The Argonaut
The only worse plot is "you were not a virgin when I met you oh woe is me I am so sad" (Chasing Amy)

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue March 08, 2022 3:30 pm
by Ms Harmless
going by the "logic" of the movie, though, Tree

"what is and isn't artificial?" is one question the movie raises

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue March 08, 2022 3:31 pm
by tree_
The Argonaut wrote:The only worse plot is "you were not a virgin when I met you oh woe is me I am so sad" (Chasing Amy)
the gay stuff between him and his friend was a little ground breaking at the time though, especially for a movie like that

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue March 08, 2022 3:32 pm
by Jorge
Argo read one Jezebel article from 10 years ago making fun of mopey male protagonists and thought "this is it, this is the level of analysis I'm comfortable with"

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue March 08, 2022 3:32 pm
by Ms Harmless
Jorge wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Jorge wrote:I don't think most people can just choose to be polyamorous
that may be true (for me it wasn't a natural orientation, though, it just made sense after a lot of trial and error), but writers / directors can acknowledge that it's a possibility that exists, and the film doesn't; it assumes "monogamy, or heartbreak"; a lot of "love triangle" plots could be made more interesting if polyamory was even acknowledged to exist in their fictional worlds
What would acknowledging the existence of polyamory do to advance the film's themes or the story it's telling? And what would it look like in practice? Seems like it would be an awkward and jarring interruption IMO. We already know from what we're seeing that Joaquin doesn't work that way. Or maybe this is polyamorous origin story
there ya go

I don't believe polyamory is always a natural orientation and a lot of people don't take to it like a duck to water

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue March 08, 2022 3:33 pm
by tree_
Ms Harmless wrote:going by the "logic" of the movie, though, Tree

"what is and isn't artificial?" is one question the movie raises
She is clearly a robot.. I don't think anyone questions that

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue March 08, 2022 3:33 pm
by Jorge
Hopefully this is explored in Her 2: They

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue March 08, 2022 3:35 pm
by Ms Harmless
Jorge wrote:Argo read one Jezebel article from 10 years ago making fun of mopey male protagonists and thought "this is it, this is the level of analysis I'm comfortable with"
I haven't seen Chasing Amy but he's right that it's an exhausting trope though; men are permitted to have a sexual history a lot more than women are

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue March 08, 2022 3:35 pm
by The Argonaut
Jorge wrote:Argo read one Jezebel article from 10 years ago making fun of mopey male protagonists and thought "this is it, this is the level of analysis I'm comfortable with"
People who defend Chasing Amy are the worst kind of people

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue March 08, 2022 3:35 pm
by tree_
Remember that movie with Ryan Gosling falling in love with a sex doll?