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Re: Now Playing

Posted: Sun February 12, 2017 10:34 pm
by BurtReynolds
new headphones :)




Re: Now Playing

Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 12:48 am
by Strat
A Ghost is Born.

Spiders (Kidsmoke) is such an incredible song.

As amazing as nels cline is, i really loved it when Tweedy was the main guitarist.

Re: Now Playing

Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 12:50 am
by LetMeSleep
Strat wrote:A Ghost is Born.

Spiders (Kidsmoke) is such an incredible song.

As amazing as nels cline is, i really loved it when Tweedy was the main guitarist.
Jay Bennett was the man.

Re: Now Playing

Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 12:53 am
by Strat
LetMeSleep wrote:
Strat wrote:A Ghost is Born.

Spiders (Kidsmoke) is such an incredible song.

As amazing as nels cline is, i really loved it when Tweedy was the main guitarist.
Jay Bennett was the man.
Yes, him and tweedy were the perfect combo.

Tweedy was the lone guitarist on AGIB though, yea?

Re: Now Playing

Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 12:53 am
by LetMeSleep
Strat wrote:
LetMeSleep wrote:
Strat wrote:A Ghost is Born.

Spiders (Kidsmoke) is such an incredible song.

As amazing as nels cline is, i really loved it when Tweedy was the main guitarist.
Jay Bennett was the man.
Yes, him and tweedy were the perfect combo.

Tweedy was the lone guitarist on AGIB though, yea?
Wilco died for me when Ken and Jay were replaced.

Re: Now Playing

Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 1:01 am
by tragabigzanda

Re: Now Playing

Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 1:02 am
by Strat
tragabigzanda wrote:Wilco got way better when Jay left.
Oof. really?

Re: Now Playing

Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 1:06 am
by tragabigzanda

Re: Now Playing

Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 1:06 am
by LetMeSleep
I don't hear that.

Re: Now Playing

Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 1:09 am
by Strat
tragabigzanda wrote:
Strat wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Wilco got way better when Jay left.
Oof. really?
Indubitably. Shame that he died though. But I think the current lineup is the best they've ever had, even if Sansone seems a little douchy.

I hate to mock Nels Cline but he is so not suited to the type of Wilco I like. Tweedy is not on top of his game, though he knocks some gems out there on occasion. No chance. Its almost like saying You liked pearl jam better when boom joined the band

Re: Now Playing

Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 1:13 am
by tragabigzanda

Re: Now Playing

Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 1:14 am
by Strat
tragabigzanda wrote:
Strat wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Strat wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Wilco got way better when Jay left.
Oof. really?
Indubitably. Shame that he died though. But I think the current lineup is the best they've ever had, even if Sansone seems a little douchy.

I hate to mock Nels Cline but he is so not suited to the type of Wilco I like. Tweedy is not on top of his game, though he knocks some gems out there on occasion. No chance. Its almost like saying You liked pearl jam better when boom joined the band
This is madness.
If you combined the best of Wilco, SBS, The Whole Love, Star Wars, and Shcmilco into an album you might be able to rival everyting that preceded.

Re: Now Playing

Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 1:18 am
by Kevin Davis
We've had the Bennett/post-Bennett conversation before. My thoughts are still:
Kevin Davis wrote:I think Wilco have exactly two great albums: "YHF" and "Ghost," one with Bennett, one without. He's a great musician and overall I like his playing better than Jorgensen's, but I don't think he's necessarily the deciding factor in the greatness of their records.
Nels has contributed a lot to Wilco that I like -- his playing on "Either Way," "Impossible Germany," "Deeper Down," "Bull Black Nova," and "Art of Almost," not to mention almost all of his playing on the "Kicking Television" album, is vital, integral stuff -- every bit as creatively at home as Bennett's best work. Those moments can be somewhat transient, so sometimes it feels like he's more of a high-profile recurring guest than an equal creative collaborator, but saying he doesn't fit feels wrong to me -- if anything Tweedy doesn't give him enough to do.

Re: Now Playing

Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 1:19 am
by tragabigzanda

Re: Now Playing

Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 1:22 am
by Strat
Kevin Davis wrote:We've had the Bennett/post-Bennett conversation before. My thoughts are still:
Kevin Davis wrote:I think Wilco have exactly two great albums: "YHF" and "Ghost," one with Bennett, one without. He's a great musician and overall I like his playing better than Jorgensen's, but I don't think he's necessarily the deciding factor in the greatness of their records.
Nels has contributed a lot to Wilco that I like -- his playing on "Either Way," "Impossible Germany," "Deeper Down," "Bull Black Nova," and "Art of Almost," not to mention almost all of his playing on the "Kicking Television" album, is vital, integral stuff -- every bit as creatively at home as Bennett's best stuff. Those moments can be somewhat transient, so sometimes it feels like he's more of a high-profile recurring guest than an equal creative collaborator, but saying he doesn't fit feels wrong to me -- if anything Tweedy doesn't give him enough to do.
I will get on board with this. One thing i might add though is that he seems out of place with what Tweedy writes these days. Schimlco - Nels is basically non existent and that was him - trying to not overplay. It seems he doesnt know how to be able to contribute unless he is gripping it and ripping it with Tweedy.

I love his contributions to the songs you stated above but i think he needs a very specific vehicle to be able to contribute to the way tweedy is writing these days.

I also think his playing on tunes from AM and Being There is less than ideal.

Re: Now Playing

Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 1:25 am
by tragabigzanda

Re: Now Playing

Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 1:29 am
by Strat
tragabigzanda wrote:Sometimes the best way to contribute is to colorless or even nothing. I don't think Jay Bennett really understood that.
I think he either goes way overboard or does nothing. Nothing in the middle. Rarely beautiful flourishes.

Re: Now Playing

Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 1:30 am
by Strat
Strat wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Sometimes the best way to contribute is to colorless or even nothing. I don't think Jay Bennett really understood that.
I think he either goes way overboard or does nothing. Nothing in the middle. Rarely beautiful flourishes.
And also i dont think Tweedy is super on top of his game. He was best as an addict


God thats awful. Star Wars was great though so maybe...

Re: Now Playing

Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 1:32 am
by Kaius

Re: Now Playing

Posted: Mon February 13, 2017 1:34 am
by Strat
Whatever, Kaius