All-Time Franchise Baseball Tournament: RED SOX WIN IT ALL!

[Lament]

We'll wait till phil posts his leaderboard to do the voting, but if you think you've got someone on your team worthy of winning MOP (and there will be two MOPs, a pitcher and a position player), feel free to start making your case for them. We'll do voting sometime during the semifinals. The voting will be weighted Cy Young Award-style. You can vote for five people, with a first place vote being worth 7 points, a second worth 4, third worth 3, fourth worth 2, and fifth worth 1. Everyone who runs a team gets a vote, but people who run two teams still only get one vote.

[Norah]

Pedro Martinez

[Lament]

Yeah, it's gonna take some unexpected numbers from out of nowhere or some insane convincing for Boston Pedro not to get my first place vote among pitchers.

I do feel like Ed Cicotte is worthy of a third (or maybe even second) place vote. A 3.06 ERA in this league is pretty stellar, and with 10 wins, he accounted for my than a third of my team's victories. His 1.183 WHIP is pretty good for this league too.


I think Luke Appling and Joe Jackson are worthy of appearing on some MOP ballots, but I can't honestly say either deserves a first place vote.

[Norah]

ERA under 3, WHIP under 1, K/9 over 10, K/BB over 5. BAA almost .2

Single digit wins but who the fuck cares?

[Lament]

How many guys even ended up with 10+ wins? The number can't be that high.

[spike]

Pablo Sandoval

[Kaius]

Silver King had a good year. Top 5 pitcher, maybe, idk. Only 1 HR in 124 2/3 IP. 3.1 ERA.

O'Neill and Hornsby are my dynamic duo, and I'd give my 1st place vote to Tip as of now.

[Norah]

Pedro would have had 10 wins if Papelbon didn't completely shit the bed in game 2.

[spike]

Pedro would have had 10 wins if Papelbon didn't completely shit the bed in game 2.

[Lament]

Without going back and looking at the stats, the guys that I am right now thinking will contend for spots on my ballot are Boston Pedro, Gregg, Tiant, King, Luque, and Cicotte.

[@SkitchP]

I tried to respond to something in the Walking Dead thread and it gave me a Malware Warnings. This thread however is a safe place.

Yeah, it's Boston Pedro.

[numbers]

Boston Pedro for overall MVP, not just pitching.

[philpritchard]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1r1iwluzufpdi ... d.xls?dl=0

Voila. If you download it, it should be easily sortable. Blue means qualified, red means non-qualified for rate stat categories.

And yeah, Boston Pedro really has no competition for top pitcher.

[philpritchard]

Boston Pedro for overall MVP, not just pitching.

He should definitely get consideration, but there are some pretty amazing offensive seasons, too.

[BigRedLedbetter]

Pedro would have had 10 wins if Papelbon didn't completely shit the bed in game 2.

Hilarious. So much gigs.

[BigRedLedbetter]

Agreed with Pedro for MVP. Especially with all the great hitters.

[@SkitchP]

Guys, there is no MVP. To exclude pitchers from the MVP debate is exactly why Lament made a pitcher and hitter award, not an "mvp"

so yeah.

[philpritchard]

Guys, there is no MVP. To exclude pitchers from the MVP debate is exactly why Lament made a pitcher and hitter award, not an "mvp"

so yeah.

MVP! MVP! MVP!

[@SkitchP]

First of all, amazing job on the leaderboard Phil. That great.

It's crazy after all .400 talk and posturing only 1 qualified guy hit it.

I think that we should have 5 man ballots for each award, 10 pts for first, 7 for second, 5 for third, 3 for 4th and 1 for 5th.


MOP Top 5:

Spoiler: show

1. O'Neill
2. Ruth
3. Cash
4. Mantle
5. Hornsby

MOP Pitcher Top 5:

Spoiler: show

1. Boston Pedro
2. Gregg
3. Ciccotte
4. Tiant
5. MTL Pedro

[BigRedLedbetter]

Pablo Sandoval