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Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Posted: Fri June 10, 2022 10:16 pm
by Monkey_Driven
I thought episode 4 was a step down, both visually and in believability. Not sure where this is going ultimately, but I'm not very confident in the directing for another Vader/Obi-Wan showdown.

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Posted: Fri June 10, 2022 10:36 pm
by Simple Torture
If they do another special edition of the original trilogy, they're going to have to change Vader's line to, "I sense something...a presence I haven't felt since...a couple of years ago."

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Posted: Fri June 10, 2022 11:46 pm
by epilogue
Simple Torture wrote:If they do another special edition of the original trilogy, they're going to have to change Vader's line to, "I sense something...a presence I haven't felt since...a couple of years ago."
9 years is still a long time, man.

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Posted: Fri June 10, 2022 11:51 pm
by Simple Torture
epilogue wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:If they do another special edition of the original trilogy, they're going to have to change Vader's line to, "I sense something...a presence I haven't felt since...a couple of years ago."
9 years is still a long time, man.
Vader is probably wearing the same underwear in this series that he wears in Star Wars.

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Posted: Sat June 11, 2022 2:27 am
by epilogue
Simple Torture wrote:
epilogue wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:If they do another special edition of the original trilogy, they're going to have to change Vader's line to, "I sense something...a presence I haven't felt since...a couple of years ago."
9 years is still a long time, man.
Vader is probably wearing the same underwear in this series that he wears in Star Wars.
No wonder he's so cranky

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Posted: Sat June 11, 2022 4:25 am
by dimejinky99
How we doin?

Same as always


That bad huh

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Posted: Sat June 11, 2022 10:41 am
by epilogue
:hooray:

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Posted: Sat June 11, 2022 10:53 am
by wease
One thing I really liked is Vader’s motivation for searching for Obi-Wan. It’s nothing more than revenge. He basically blames him for all the bad things that have happened to him and the pure hatred and anger are what drive this quest. Very interesting.

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Posted: Sat June 11, 2022 11:17 am
by Simple Torture
I've got a lot of problems with how the series is dealing with lore (although, to be fair, they've been retconning Star Wars since Empire, and every movie has done it since, so it's not like Star Wars is some sacrosanct timeline that can't be monkeyed with), I do think the vengeful, angry Vader in this works. He's a middle-manager in Star Wars that other people laugh at, and it's not until Empire that he really, really feels menacing, and he begins to soften when he realizes who Luke is--but being able to see this mindless killing machine gives him a nice arc.

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Posted: Sat June 11, 2022 11:18 am
by B
epilogue wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
epilogue wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:If they do another special edition of the original trilogy, they're going to have to change Vader's line to, "I sense something...a presence I haven't felt since...a couple of years ago."
9 years is still a long time, man.
Vader is probably wearing the same underwear in this series that he wears in Star Wars.
No wonder he's so cranky
There's no underwear in space. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ladbib ... 1.amp.html

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Posted: Sat June 11, 2022 11:30 am
by epilogue
B wrote:
epilogue wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
epilogue wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:If they do another special edition of the original trilogy, they're going to have to change Vader's line to, "I sense something...a presence I haven't felt since...a couple of years ago."
9 years is still a long time, man.
Vader is probably wearing the same underwear in this series that he wears in Star Wars.
No wonder he's so cranky
There's no underwear in space. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ladbib ... 1.amp.html
Thus spake the Creator!

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Posted: Sat June 11, 2022 11:30 am
by epilogue
Simple Torture wrote:I've got a lot of problems with how the series is dealing with lore (although, to be fair, they've been retconning Star Wars since Empire, and every movie has done it since, so it's not like Star Wars is some sacrosanct timeline that can't be monkeyed with), I do think the vengeful, angry Vader in this works. He's a middle-manager in Star Wars that other people laugh at, and it's not until Empire that he really, really feels menacing, and he begins to soften when he realizes who Luke is--but being able to see this mindless killing machine gives him a nice arc.
What lore stuff is bugging you?

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Posted: Sat June 11, 2022 11:38 am
by Simple Torture
epilogue wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:I've got a lot of problems with how the series is dealing with lore (although, to be fair, they've been retconning Star Wars since Empire, and every movie has done it since, so it's not like Star Wars is some sacrosanct timeline that can't be monkeyed with), I do think the vengeful, angry Vader in this works. He's a middle-manager in Star Wars that other people laugh at, and it's not until Empire that he really, really feels menacing, and he begins to soften when he realizes who Luke is--but being able to see this mindless killing machine gives him a nice arc.
What lore stuff is bugging you?
I've referenced it before, and it's small in the scheme of things, but my head cannon of Obi Wan will always be a desert hermit, someone who spent the years meditating and in hiding, not someone who has been planet hopping and going on adventures. That's the sort of gravitas Guiness brought to the role, and it's how I still imagine him. But, as I said, some of the biggest plot points in the OT itself were retconned, so if they're gonna play around with the character, whatever, it's been done before.

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Posted: Sat June 11, 2022 9:10 pm
by epilogue
Listening to the Ringer-Verse pod, and they mentioned some fan doing a twitter thread (that I haven't found/seen) about how each episode of Kenobi mirrors the corresponding ep of the Skywalker Saga. That's a fun theory given how much of Part IV of Kenobi was references to Episode IV: A New Hope.

And I wonder what that means for the final two episodes.

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Posted: Sat June 11, 2022 9:33 pm
by Simple Torture
Ewoks in Part VI?

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Posted: Sat June 11, 2022 10:07 pm
by epilogue
Simple Torture wrote:Ewoks in Part VI?
fingers crossed

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Posted: Sat June 11, 2022 11:10 pm
by wease
Goddammit

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Posted: Sat June 11, 2022 11:13 pm
by spike
Simple Torture wrote:
epilogue wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:I've got a lot of problems with how the series is dealing with lore (although, to be fair, they've been retconning Star Wars since Empire, and every movie has done it since, so it's not like Star Wars is some sacrosanct timeline that can't be monkeyed with), I do think the vengeful, angry Vader in this works. He's a middle-manager in Star Wars that other people laugh at, and it's not until Empire that he really, really feels menacing, and he begins to soften when he realizes who Luke is--but being able to see this mindless killing machine gives him a nice arc.
What lore stuff is bugging you?
I've referenced it before, and it's small in the scheme of things, but my head cannon of Obi Wan will always be a desert hermit, someone who spent the years meditating and in hiding, not someone who has been planet hopping and going on adventures. That's the sort of gravitas Guiness brought to the role, and it's how I still imagine him. But, as I said, some of the biggest plot points in the OT itself were retconned, so if they're gonna play around with the character, whatever, it's been done before.
Perhaps adventuring OB1 is a force projection, and actual OB1 is chilling in his cave the whole time.

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Posted: Sun June 12, 2022 12:08 am
by Anders
epilogue wrote:Listening to the Ringer-Verse pod, and they mentioned some fan doing a twitter thread (that I haven't found/seen) about how each episode of Kenobi mirrors the corresponding ep of the Skywalker Saga. That's a fun theory given how much of Part IV of Kenobi was references to Episode IV: A New Hope.

And I wonder what that means for the final two episodes.
Could be this one.

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Posted: Sun June 12, 2022 12:13 am
by wease
Not to mention there is a tracking device so they can follow them.