Red Mosquito

BurtReynolds wrote:

*fewer

for bi_3

BurtReynolds wrote:for bi_3

Not a person alive who hasn’t tried that one

BurtReynolds wrote:

take it to the muffins thread in food & dining

BurtReynolds wrote:

Doesn't really hold up to any scrutiny.

I mean like not even in a funny way.

Mickey wrote:I mean like not even in a funny way.

There was some resistance to this in the group I stole it from, but the meme's truth won out in the end. The panopticon is basically slave morality with extra steps. Foucault is Nietzsche for non-chads.

"I am simply a Nietzschean.”

BurtReynolds wrote:

Mickey wrote:I mean like not even in a funny way.

There was some resistance to this in the group I stole it from, but the meme's truth won out in the end. The panopticon is basically slave morality with extra steps. Foucault is Nietzsche for non-chads.

"I am simply a Nietzschean.”

Oh well if the meme group said so then we can just move right along.

Burt have you read Genealogy or D&P?

I mean I don't really give a shit if some FB randos want to reduce the panopticon to Nietzsche 2: Electric Boogaloo. It would by no means be the worst thing that has happened on Facebook and I'm not particularly invested in defending Foucault as an original thinker (though I think he *is* one, and has been foundationally important for me in many ways). It just strikes me as kind of a lazy joke, one that's neither particularly funny nor particularly insightful, and primarily aimed at people who have *heard of* some of Foucault's major ideas. But you seem to be legitimately interested in the history of ideas (though I think you live in bananaland when it comes to chumps like Shapiro). Why not read the books? Foucault borrows, more than anything, his methodology from Nietzsche, but his conception of power is quite different and, I think, much more relevant to our present day.

Also, for what it's worth, I legitimately enjoy reading Foucault. The lectures at the College de France are especially lucid, and though they're a bit more of a deep dive they'll still get you to some of his central ideas (especially his late career stuff). I can't say the same for Nietzsche--he's got some good one-liners and it's clearer than a whole mess of 19th century writing but it's incredibly repetitive.

Mickey wrote:Burt have you read Genealogy or D&P?

I've read Genealogy several times. I don't think I've finished D&P but it is interesting and I plan on going back to it. It's just a joke bro.

Foucault seems a bit samey though (I have a meme for that too), but I'm no expert.

Mickey wrote:Also, for what it's worth, I legitimately enjoy reading Foucault. The lectures at the College de France are especially lucid, and though they're a bit more of a deep dive they'll still get you to some of his central ideas (especially his late career stuff). I can't say the same for Nietzsche--he's got some good one-liners and it's clearer than a whole mess of 19th century writing but it's incredibly repetitive.

Have you read Nietzsche's earlier stuff? I've been going back over Birth of Tragedy and there is a lot of good stuff there.

BurtReynolds wrote:

Mickey wrote:Also, for what it's worth, I legitimately enjoy reading Foucault. The lectures at the College de France are especially lucid, and though they're a bit more of a deep dive they'll still get you to some of his central ideas (especially his late career stuff). I can't say the same for Nietzsche--he's got some good one-liners and it's clearer than a whole mess of 19th century writing but it's incredibly repetitive.

Have you read Nietzsche's earlier stuff? I've been going back over Birth of Tragedy and there is a lot of good stuff there.

It's fine for what it is (edit: it here = BoT) but I don't think it holds up very well/I don't have much use for it. I have enjoyed ranking political candidates as Dionysiac vs Apolline