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Re: Retrograde

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 4:06 am
by chewm
i always only remember the guitar noodling

Re: Retrograde

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 8:17 am
by sweeper
This is going to be the 4th single and it's going to annoy people here. I'm excited for that.

Re: Retrograde

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 9:06 am
by Anders
That would be a very weird choice.

Re: Retrograde

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 9:32 am
by Ms Harmless
that's why it's gonna happen

Re: Retrograde

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 10:01 am
by Anders
Who Ever Said would be a good choice for a fourth single.

Re: Retrograde

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 10:13 am
by Mike
What do singles after the album release even mean anymore in the streaming era? What does it change except... knowing it's a single? Radio play? Do people still listen to the radio? Maybe getting a video? I thought Quick Escape being a single one day before the album was released was weird enough already.

Re: Retrograde

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 10:18 am
by Ms Harmless
I don't think it's unusual to keep releasing singles near / on / after release date; people are very single song-focussed now; they'll hear a song they love on the radio, put it on a mixed genre / artist playlist, and never buy the album but still end up giving the artist support and exposure

Re: Retrograde

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 10:18 am
by Anders
True Mike. The last three albums only had three singles. I haven't checked further back.

Re: Retrograde

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 11:00 am
by smallest_oceans
Its a grower- need to do a deep dive headphone run. I think there is a lot to explore. The ending is gold, of course. Good pickup on the reverb effect on Ed's vocals- didn't notice that the first few times through.

Re: Retrograde

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 8:08 pm
by epilogue
Sleight of Hand
Help Help
Release
Better Man
In Hiding
Yellow Moon
Mankind
Army Reserve
The End
Retrograde
Leash

Re: Retrograde

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 8:16 pm
by PHATJ
1. Release/Sleight of Hand - my two favorite PJ songs
3. Leash
4. Army Reserve
5. Retrograde
6. Better Man
7. Help Help
8. In Hiding
9. Mankind
10. Yellow Moon
11. The End

Re: Retrograde

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 8:26 pm
by McParadigm
wat

Re: Retrograde

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 11:19 pm
by bodysnatcher
Sleight of Hand
Release
Help Help
Better Man
Mankind
Army Reserve
Yellow Moon
In Hiding
The End
Retrograde
Leash

Re: Retrograde

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 11:43 pm
by PHATJ
PHATJ wrote:1. Release/Sleight of Hand - my two favorite PJ songs
3. Leash
4. Army Reserve
5. Retrograde
6. Better Man
7. Help Help
8. In Hiding
9. Mankind
10. Yellow Moon
11. The End

This track number is super special to me. Release and Sleight of Hand are my two favorite songs of all time. And I can’t choose which I love more. Leash and Army Reserve are my favorite songs from their albums too. I’m having difficulty determining the order of tracks 5-8, they’re basically interchangeable. I like Mankind for its novelty and Yellow Moon would’ve been a fine closer to the Lightning Bolt album. The End I find mostly just annoying.

Re: Retrograde

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 11:53 pm
by Rob
Betterman
Release
In Hiding
Help Help
Army Reserve
Leash
Sleight of Hand
Yellow Moon
Retrograde
The End
Mankind

Re: Retrograde

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 12:40 am
by stip
Betterman
Release
Yellow Moon
Leash
Retrograde
The End
Army Reserve
Help Help
In Hiding
Mankind
Sleight of Hand

Another weaker number. The final run of a lot of their albums really run out of steam

Re: Retrograde

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 12:45 am
by PHATJ
OH MY GOD, STIP

Re: Retrograde

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 12:48 am
by stip
I've worked in non-profit education my whole life. If you're that unhappy and unfulfilled in your job go back to school and do something else. Quit whining about it. that's my read on Sleight of Hand.

Re: Retrograde

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 12:52 pm
by Kevin Davis
stip wrote:I've worked in non-profit education my whole life. If you're that unhappy and unfulfilled in your job go back to school and do something else. Quit whining about it. that's my read on Sleight of Hand.
This certainly sounds like a take from someone who has worked in academia his whole life. Surely you understand that not everyone stuck in a miserable job has the resources to just put his or her life on hold to go back to fucking college, as if that guarantees anyone anything anyway. Don't get me wrong, I've been in jobs that have made me utterly miserable and I support the general premise that eventually we become co-conspirators in our own misery, but this take feels pretty oblivious to me. I mean, couldn't you essentially make this same argument about every song chronicling any personal unhappiness of any kind? Aren't "Corduroy" and "Not For You" also, in effect, Eddie bellyaching about how much he hates his job?

Re: Retrograde

Posted: Wed April 08, 2020 12:54 pm
by Jorge
Kevin Davis wrote:
stip wrote:I've worked in non-profit education my whole life. If you're that unhappy and unfulfilled in your job go back to school and do something else. Quit whining about it. that's my read on Sleight of Hand.
This certainly sounds like a take from someone who has worked in academia his whole life. Surely you understand that not everyone stuck in a miserable job has the resources to just put his or her life on hold to go back to fucking college, as if that guarantees anyone anything anyway. Don't get me wrong, I've been in jobs that have made me utterly miserable and I support the general premise that eventually we become co-conspirators in our own misery, but this take feels pretty oblivious to me. I mean, couldn't you essentially make this same argument about every song chronicling any personal unhappiness of any kind? Aren't "Corduroy" and "Not For You" also, in effect, Eddie bellyaching about how much he hates his job?
And also the song is good