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Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 4:54 pm
by Ello Sailor
tree_ wrote:Why is it any of your business what people "need", though? Have you considered you might be wrong? Maybe healthy and fit isn't always the right answer for everyone.
The human body doesn't have an opinion. It's science.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 4:54 pm
by tree_
Everyone dies. Can't live forever. Enjoying food and not exercising is one way to live.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 4:55 pm
by verb_to_trust
If someone has bad cholesterol that's a problem. Doesn't matter if their BP is right were it should be.
B, your friend is fat as fuck and highly at risk.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 4:56 pm
by Ello Sailor
tree_ wrote:Have you considered you might be wrong? Maybe healthy and fit isn't always the right answer for everyone.
I've read your posts. Of course I'm not wrong. There you go with another emotional response to hard science.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 4:58 pm
by Ello Sailor
tree_ wrote:Everyone dies. Can't live forever. Enjoying food and not exercising is one way to live.
When your body is a prison by your own doing, you're not living. You're wasting the only chance you'll ever get.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 4:58 pm
by tree_
Ello Sailor wrote:tree_ wrote:Have you considered you might be wrong? Maybe healthy and fit isn't always the right answer for everyone.
I've read your posts. Of course I'm not wrong. There you go with another emotional response to hard science.
The science does say you're more likely to live longer if you are physically healthier. But people make calculated risks all the time. Some people would rather keep their lifestyle than live a different way and possibly add some years at the end.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 4:59 pm
by tree_
Ello Sailor wrote:tree_ wrote:Everyone dies. Can't live forever. Enjoying food and not exercising is one way to live.
When your body is a prison by your own doing, you're not living. You're wasting the only chance you'll ever get.
What prison? Fat doesn't necessarily equal unhappiness.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 5:00 pm
by tree_
Also, "by your own doing" is up for debate. I don't believe in free will. Even if there were free will, you didn't choose the brain you have in which decisions are made.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 5:04 pm
by Ello Sailor
Yeeeah, that'll do it for me. Day 2 was a little more civil, so good job everyone. Except verb. Wtf verb.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 5:25 pm
by verb_to_trust
Ello Sailor wrote:Yeeeah, that'll do it for me. Day 2 was a little more civil, so good job everyone. Except verb. Wtf verb.
It's what tree wanted
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 5:40 pm
by 4/5
There's a part of me that wishes I had gotten on the ground floor of this thread. Now its sky high and I'll never make my money back.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 5:45 pm
by Rob
I thought it was a fun ride.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:07 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
sticky this
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:10 pm
by B
Ello Sailor wrote:Who have I personally informed that they need to lose weight?
Well, I've been advocating for people to be respectful of fat people in person, and you've been arguing against it like it's your job to tell fat people to fix themselves.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:34 pm
by verb_to_trust
If I was fat I would just self identify as skinny
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:37 pm
by Anders
The poll is weird with two questions.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:38 pm
by tree_
Anders wrote:The poll is weird with two questions.
you get to pick 2 answers though
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:41 pm
by Anders
But I will answer differently to the two questions.
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:48 pm
by tree_
i don't know if you thought this through
Re: Fat Acceptance
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:51 pm
by Anders
In general being thin should be more healthy, but there’s a lot of factors involved.
I keep thinking of my grandmother. Sweetest person I’ve known. She outlived her thin husband by more than 30 years, going well into her 90s, when she fell. The hospital stay afterwards, ended with her dying. But she lived a long happy life, baked every week with butter and whole milk. Her chubby younger sister, also lived until her 90s. Her chubby sister in law died last year at 101.
In the past year I’ve lost two uncles to cancer, and an aunt recently. She had worked very hard as a nurse, and struggled with aches and more. She was only 69. Fairly routine check at the hospital, ended up dying in her sleep. They were all skinny. One of my uncles didn’t drink or smoke, he was a mountain man. We’re talking one of the toughest leanest guys you would have ever met. Just 72. My last uncle was 76, thin as anyone. My father was also reasonably thin, not skinny, died in his 60s.