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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed February 14, 2024 5:21 pm
by oneway23
Buby wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
Strat wrote:i have a feeling a lot of people listen to those Dolby Atmos mixes without the proper gear
One's experience is definitely gear-dependent here, yes.
I definitely have the proper gear :)
Certainly didn't intend to imply whether you did or didn't...merely that the gear one listens on when decoding Dolby Atmos is a major factor in the experience, which is true, arguably moreso than for stereo listening.

In any case, I agree with you that Gigaton is not the best expression of the format.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed February 14, 2024 5:32 pm
by stip
what gear do i need for a proper experience?

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed February 14, 2024 5:50 pm
by bodysnatcher
stip wrote:what gear do i need for a proper experience?
Like 14 of these

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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed February 14, 2024 5:56 pm
by Farmer John
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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed February 14, 2024 6:11 pm
by Buby
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It's a rabbit hole, but I'll try oversimplified examples, one expensive and one accessible.
We got the deluxe edition bluray so you can...

a) Run an optical cable from a bluray player to a dolby atmos supported surround sound system. There's calibration needed to adapt to room size, speaker location, acoustics etc. This lands on the pricy side.

b) On the accessible side, there are soundbars now that include dolby atmos support, emphasys on support, it's not the full height of it, but decent. Go the optical cable route from a bluray player to the soundbar.

I get that most systems are wireless now, optical wire is a personal preference I guess.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed February 14, 2024 6:12 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Strat wrote:i have a feeling a lot of people listen to those Dolby Atmos mixes without the proper gear
Pretty condescending post if you ask me

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed February 14, 2024 6:14 pm
by bodysnatcher
That sounds like a f’ing nightmare. Just gonna get some Atmos headphones

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed February 14, 2024 6:16 pm
by Bi_3
Atmos is the worst thing to happen to audio in a generation.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed February 14, 2024 6:17 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
bodysnatcher wrote:That sounds like a f’ing nightmare. Just gonna get some Atmos headphones
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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed February 14, 2024 6:26 pm
by oneway23
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Strat wrote:i have a feeling a lot of people listen to those Dolby Atmos mixes without the proper gear
Pretty condescending post if you ask me
Granted, I'm probably going out on a limb in inferring from Strat's words, but, I truly don't believe that's the intention here. It's possible to use any set of wired headphones to listen to Dolby Atmos streams via Apple Music, that much is true, but, it's actually an entirely different encoding if you listen this way. I think maybe people might be doing this, mayyybbe not always with the proper settings flicked on in the app, and possibly not having the best experience or first impression as a result.

It's an interesting technology, able to scale effortlessly between setups of any size and budget, but, it's still early days. No matter how one chooses to listen, there are going to be a few settings which need to be tweaked first. No different than stereo, 5.1 Dolby, DolbyEX, DTS, 7.1 Dolby Plus, SACD, or any other audio format when the technology was new.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed February 14, 2024 6:35 pm
by stip
are airpods atmos enabled?

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed February 14, 2024 6:37 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed February 14, 2024 6:39 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed February 14, 2024 6:41 pm
by bodysnatcher
stip wrote:are airpods atmos enabled?
I believe the 3rd generation, AirPods Pro, and AirPods Max are.

Don’t know the differences in those.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed February 14, 2024 6:46 pm
by stip
tragabigzanda wrote:
stip wrote:are airpods atmos enabled?
The Pros are, but as was mentioned above, it’s fake 7.1, relying on an algorithm to try to approximate a 7 channel layout. I’ve not used it but I’m extremely skeptical it holds any value whatsoever.
I don't know what the second half of the first sentence means, but it seems important.

I have new air pod pros and some nice desktop headphones. I'll share what they are when I get home. I just need someone to tell me either

A: what I need to do to hear pearl jam atmos mixes or
B: confirm that there isn't enough added to be worth the effort

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed February 14, 2024 6:48 pm
by oneway23
tragabigzanda wrote:
stip wrote:are airpods atmos enabled?
The Pros are, but as was mentioned above, it’s fake 7.1, relying on an algorithm to try to approximate a 7 channel layout. I’ve not used it but I’m extremely skeptical it holds any value whatsoever.
The encoding will be a binaural approximation and not the full enchilada, true, but, the actual mix itself will differ from every other format, which makes it unique, at the very least.

There's also a really good chance it'll be less peak limited and/or digitally compressed, too, as is often the case with many of these.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed February 14, 2024 6:49 pm
by oneway23
stip wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
stip wrote:are airpods atmos enabled?
The Pros are, but as was mentioned above, it’s fake 7.1, relying on an algorithm to try to approximate a 7 channel layout. I’ve not used it but I’m extremely skeptical it holds any value whatsoever.
I don't know what the second half of the first sentence means, but it seems important.

I have new air pod pros and some nice desktop headphones. I'll share what they are when I get home. I just need someone to tell me either

A: what I need to do to hear pearl jam atmos mixes or
B: confirm that there isn't enough added to be worth the effort
Here ya go, stip. Hope this helps!

https://support.apple.com/en-us/109354

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed February 14, 2024 7:05 pm
by spike
Bi_3 wrote:Atmos is the worst thing to happen to audio in a generation.
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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed February 14, 2024 7:09 pm
by oneway23
spike wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:Atmos is the worst thing to happen to audio in a generation.
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Wot did you say?

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Wed February 14, 2024 7:10 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now