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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 12:03 pm
by harmless
McParadigm wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:I'm hearing profound circus too but I think it fits.
Especially if the story about it being written In a motel room with sirens being heard in the distance is true.
For the benefit of Mr. Mike
There will be a show tonight
So profound.
I think one of the things keeping me out of this song is that its like 50% chorus. And it is pretty, but that 'needs mer chorus' thing is something that drives me nuts about a lot of modern pop....25 seconds of verse, 45 seconds of chorus...it feeds the energy level an helps make a song seem "big," but it's just not for me.
That chorus is definitely not my favourite part of the song... although it's not really a chorus so it's fine.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 12:04 pm
by Birds in Hell
You guys weren't kidding about the video version, it's really good.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 12:07 pm
by keeponjammin89
Well its kinda dumb theyd do that i love live but its a music video that seems kinda weird. And pretty sure its getting played today on the radio.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 12:08 pm
by harmless
keeponjammin89 wrote:Well its kinda dumb theyd do that i love live but its a music video that seems kinda weird. And pretty sure its getting played today on the radio.
They've done that for three albums now, and also for Even Flow and Alive (I think?).
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 12:09 pm
by stip
McParadigm wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:I'm hearing profound circus too but I think it fits.
Especially if the story about it being written In a motel room with sirens being heard in the distance is true.
For the benefit of Mr. Mike
There will be a show tonight
So profound.
I think one of the things keeping me out of this song is that its like 50% chorus. And it is pretty, but that 'needs mer chorus' thing is something that drives me nuts about a lot of modern pop....25 seconds of verse, 45 seconds of chorus...it feeds the energy level an helps make a song seem "big," but it's just not for me.
i am having a hard time telling the chorus from the verse, especially since the chorus lyrics don't really repeat, do they?
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 12:09 pm
by McParadigm
harmless wrote:keeponjammin89 wrote:Well its kinda dumb theyd do that i love live but its a music video that seems kinda weird. And pretty sure its getting played today on the radio.
They've done that for three albums now, and also for Even Flow and Alive (I think?).
Alive. And Riot Act.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 12:09 pm
by Lounge Lizard
harmless wrote:keeponjammin89 wrote:Well its kinda dumb theyd do that i love live but its a music video that seems kinda weird. And pretty sure its getting played today on the radio.
They've done that for three albums now, and also for Even Flow and Alive (I think?).
that's the Pearl Jam shtick
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 12:09 pm
by keeponjammin89
Oh interesting i guess ive never payed much attention to there music videos before lol.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 12:10 pm
by Lounge Lizard
stip wrote:i am having a hard time telling the chorus from the verse, especially since the chorus lyrics don't really repeat, do they?
Um.. they do?
Second chorus (pre-solo) and third chorus I think are the same.
I could be wrong
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 12:10 pm
by harmless
McParadigm wrote:harmless wrote:keeponjammin89 wrote:Well its kinda dumb theyd do that i love live but its a music video that seems kinda weird. And pretty sure its getting played today on the radio.
They've done that for three albums now, and also for Even Flow and Alive (I think?).
Alive. And Riot Act.
Ah yes, Riot Act too.
That "Waahaaah!" Even Flow video is a live version, isn't it?
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 12:10 pm
by stip
McParadigm wrote:harmless wrote:keeponjammin89 wrote:Well its kinda dumb theyd do that i love live but its a music video that seems kinda weird. And pretty sure its getting played today on the radio.
They've done that for three albums now, and also for Even Flow and Alive (I think?).
Alive. And Riot Act.
WWS is live.
Was fixer live or just a different version? Different version I think
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 12:11 pm
by keeponjammin89
Now im feeling im not gonna like the studio version as much.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 12:12 pm
by Lounge Lizard
keeponjammin89 wrote:Oh interesting i guess ive never payed much attention to there music videos before lol.
The 'Sirens' video in terms of production is their best 'live' music video since 'Alive'.
'Save You' was quite shitty, 'Evenflow' was a bit of a mess, 'The Fixer' was... well...
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 12:12 pm
by harmless
Lounge Lizard wrote:stip wrote:i am having a hard time telling the chorus from the verse, especially since the chorus lyrics don't really repeat, do they?
Um.. they do?
Second chorus (pre-solo) and third chorus I think are the same.
I could be wrong
They're pretty long for choruses because they both have two sections / movements to them, so if they are choruses, they're not short enough to be typical ones; they're both like a chorus and a bridge mixed together. It's weird.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 12:13 pm
by LetMeSleep
Even Flow was the re-recorded Dave A version (from memory).
2nd chorus and 3rd chorus lyrics the same or very close.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 12:14 pm
by Lounge Lizard
harmless wrote:They're pretty long for choruses because they both have two sections / movements to them, so if they are choruses, they're not short enough to be typical ones; they're both like a chorus and a bridge mixed together. It's weird.
but go together well like foreplay and coitus
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 12:14 pm
by harmless
keeponjammin89 wrote:Now im feeling im not gonna like the studio version as much.
I'm quite glad I heard the studio one first. I loved it on first listen but there are also things I liked about the live version and weaker spots on the studio version.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 12:14 pm
by harmless
Lounge Lizard wrote:harmless wrote:They're pretty long for choruses because they both have two sections / movements to them, so if they are choruses, they're not short enough to be typical ones; they're both like a chorus and a bridge mixed together. It's weird.
but go together well like foreplay and coitus
For me, pretty much.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 12:15 pm
by Lounge Lizard
harmless wrote:keeponjammin89 wrote:Now im feeling im not gonna like the studio version as much.
I'm quite glad I heard the studio one first. I loved it on first listen but there are also things I liked about the live version and weaker spots on the studio version.
When the album's out, I will replace the studio track with this one.
You can't hear Stone on the studio clip. Ed and Stone are the 'Sirens'.
Although Mike wrote it.
Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 12:15 pm
by Blenheim Augustine
LetMeSleep wrote:A couple of people days ago mentioned that it really struck them, especially as parents. Maybe the ice is thawing. Parenthood does weird shit to you emotionally.
I'd agree - the 'fragile life' line and 'could be for me next time' are particularly connecting and it was the first time I've had a really deep emotional response to a song since Riot Act. I'll avoid the soppy exposition about having kids and realising how fragile life is (but it is something that hits you hard). It's one of those observations that is so banal yet when you actually grasp it is a truly enormous moment. It's not just kids that give you that perspective but it is a different experience.
The other part (sirens coming for you) is that your the old guy now yet your kid sees you as invincible. I now have to cope with the knowledge that I am actually totally vincible but know the expectation from my two young sons - again, not just a parent thing but it does give you an unavoidable perspective on things.
Of course if this is where the song is coming from and you don't quite relate to those feelings then it is possibly just Inside Job Part II. I'm disappointed Jeff didn't use his 12-string to give a bit more of a homage to Cheap Trick.